Iraqi girl stoned for loving man of different religion...

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  2. Toopac

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    That type of behaviour is pretty standard in Islam.

    What you need to understand is he was an infidel & she brought shame upon her religion.






    :rolleyes:
     
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    I agree. That's normal behaviour. They live like that, they love it and that's how they are happy...
     
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    What happened to that girl is sickening, inhumane, barbaric & not tolerant something that Muslims claim Islam is, she was killed because of religious beliefs. I thought i'd come back into this thread & state my real opinion on this story as i would be no better than the terrorist supporters who only come into a thread to slate the other side instead of condemning the act.
     
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    You need to improve your reading skills mate ;)
    what is that going to do with Islam :rolleyes:
     
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    I just cant imagine how a human being do this to another human being. May she rest in peace.
     
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    It is sad sad and sad
     
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    It said in article, "a local security force witnessed the incident, but did nothing to try to stop it."
    HOW CAN THEY NOT STOP IT!
    and this was filmed and put on the internet, how disgusting and sad. I just went to that link and saw that, it makes me want to cry. That is just so cruel.
    It said she loved a muslim and was thinking of converting to islam.
    How could people do this, I just can't imagine.
     
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    Yezidi is based somewhat on Islam.
     
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    This is still bothering me. If anyone finds out who the "local security force" that witnessed the incident is, please post it here. I don't think the security forces would be american soldiers because they would have killed the 9 men that stoned the girl, they would not allow that to happen. What is the point of a security force that would not stop a murder in front of there own eyes? What kind of security is that?
     
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    This is hugely, hugely worrying. That a girl can be stoned in public for 30 minutes while people stand idly by and spectate is beyond belief. And remember folks - Islam is the religion of peace according to what we hear on here every day.

    Probably, knowing the lack of restraint and over reaction that typifies the US military :rolleyes:
     
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    We cannot blame this particular incident on islam. If you read the article it says this girl was stoned to death for falling in love with a muslim boy and was considering converting to islam.

    All I am saying is I believe American soldiers would have protected this girl had they have been there, not stand around and watch.
     
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    The more I read in these islam threads the more I feel away from civilisation. A couple of years ago I was not even thinking in my wildest dreams that people can downgrade themselves lower than animals, but with islam it happens.
     
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  14. Fka200

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    Before a religion/belief starts being attacked, it seems whenever situations come up like this it is always focussed on Islam. For one, this was the Yezidi religion. I am not familiar with their practices, but Islam is being trashed from the beginning with no mention of their belief system (be them related or not, it is still wrong.)

    This video really disturbed me... to the point where I couldn't fall asleep at my normal "bed time." Sad.

    I try to keep out of this section of the forums since I don't like to mix personal bias in a public forum (where I actively participate in and give advice to others) but this was sooo bad. I especially hate how there are cell phones whipped out and recording this unfortunate event. When can we just live in a peaceful world already? C'mon we can fly to the moon but not help others in need who are dieing of starvation, etc?
     
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    You're right its not a pure islamic issue, but why would muslims retaliate then? Seems to be a sort of pitbull there.

    ... Nobody tries to help her.

    "They brutally killed a young Yazidi girl in pursuit of out-of-date tribal rites," said Tahsin Saeed Ali, Emir of the Yazidis in Iraq and the world and head of the Supreme Yazidi Spiritual Council, in a statement.

    Ali condemned the murder and called on Muslims not to retaliate. When news of Aswad's murder surfaced last month, it triggered an apparent revenge attack.

    On April 23, gunmen stopped a bus carrying workers to her community, the village of Beshika 10 kilometres (six miles) outside Mosul, dragged out 23 Yazidis and shot them dead.

    While it is a Kurdish speaking area, Beshika lies outside northern Iraq's Kurdish autonomous region, whose administration has urged the national government in Baghdad to carry out an investigation into the murder.

    Last week the United Nations' quarterly report on human rights in Iraq expressed serious concern over a rapid rise in so-called "honour killings" of women deemed to have betrayed their families in Kurdish Iraq.

    "The killing of Doaa is a great tragedy for her family and the Kurdish community. It is a crime and religiously, socially and ideologically unacceptable," a statement from the Kurdish authority said

    "While we condemn this crime, we demand that it be not used in arousing sedition among the components of the Kurdish people.

    Yazidis -- who number some 500,000, mainly in northern Iraq -- speak a dialect of Kurdish but follow a pre-Islamic religion and have their own cultural traditions.

    They believe in God the creator and respect the Biblical and Koranic prophets, especially Abraham, but their main focus of worship is Malak Taus, the chief of the archangels, often represented by a peacock.

    Followers of other religions know this angel as Lucifer or Satan, leading to popular prejudice that the secretive Yazidis are devil-worshippers.

    Nevertheless, the community has survived for centuries alongside its Muslim and Christian neighbours. Now, however, with sectarian war gripping much of Iraq, Sunni Muslim extremists have begun to threaten them.
     
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    Regarding the article:

    It was the community and her family who participated in this event. This is pure rubbish from the Kurdish authority.

    You can't really make a comment on something like this since it is just plain stupid. I understand she fell in love with a Sunni boy, but why would they take it out on them? I feel as if there is more behind this story, so I cannot solidly comment on this.

    ________

    With all respect to the teachings and practices of others, I didn't like what happened to this young girl. We do have to remember that "clan laws" are discussed amongst everyone in the community--and if laws are broken, the people know the consequences.

    This young girl most likely weighed the consequences of her actions before hand and decided it would be worth betraying her clan. She probably thought something like this could never happen to her, just the same way a drunk driver doesn't believe he/she could crash into a tree and kill themselves going 90mph.

    Final opinion is that things need to be changed. Religion can coincide with modern times. If someone feels as if they need to be out and do "their own thing," they are probably not part of that religion then, and shouldn't have to face up to punishments by that religion. I don't live in the region so I don't know how things work, but jeez... this is just so sad.
     
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    I have heard of worser stories..its quite common in that part of the world.
     
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    that still doesn't make it right...this is what I think of as barbaric.
     
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    I read more about the yazidis that stoned that poor girl at:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yezidi

    In the purity and taboos section:
    "...Too much contact with non-Yazidis is also polluting. In the past Yazidis avoided military service which would have led them to live among Muslims, and were forbidden to share such items as cups or razors with outsiders...."

    In customs section:
    "...Thus, the Yazidi have been accused of devil worship. Because of this and due to their pre-Islamic beliefs, they have been oppressed by their Muslim neighbors. Such oppression of Yezidis was exceptionally harsh during the rule of the Ottoman Empire..."

    READ THIS FROM RECENT HISTORY SECTION:

    In an October 2006 article in The New Republic, Lawrence Kaplan echoes Williams's sentiments about the enthusiasm of the Yezidis for the American occupation of Iraq, in part because the Americans protect them from oppression by militant Muslims and the nearby Kurds. Kaplan notes that the peace and calm of Sinjar is virtually unique in Iraq: "Parents and children line the streets when U.S. patrols pass by, while Yezidi clerics pray for the welfare of U.S. forces."[6]

    On April 22, 2007, 23 Yazidis were shot and killed by gunman near the town of Bashika. The gunmen stopped the bus they were riding in and separated out Christian passengers. The remaining 23 Yazidis were driven to eastern Mosul where they were shot execution style. [7] This was apparently a reaction to video images of Yazidi from Bashika stoning to death a young woman,[Du’a Khalil Aswad],[8] who had married a muslim two weeks before.[9][10]. The horrific murder was videotaped and loaded onto YouTube [11].
     
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    It was much like a Jew turning around and dating the relative of a suicide bomber.

    Except most religions, including Jews, don't murder people for dating the wrong people.

    Most religions would explain why dating someone of a faith that hates yours is a bad idea.
     
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