I believe that everyone here is familiar with Sharia law. I am not as interested in "less crimes" as I am interested in "more justice." If we killed five billion people tomorrow, it would seriously cut down on the amount of crimes committed on this planet. But would that be a good thing? Probably not. Do you really want a private religious court dealing with murderers? That leads to events like the recent experience in Iran, where a group of murderers were set free because the Sharia courts determined that their victims were all behaving in an un-Islamic fashion. (Details here). That's not justice by any definition which I am willing to accept.
To secure their rights, dhimmi would pledge loyalty to their Muslim rulers, pay a special poll-tax (the jizya) for adult males, and in general show deference and humility to Muslims in social interactions. While the conditions of the Pact were authoritative, the level of enforcement varied, as shown by the existence of churches constructed long after the Muslim conquests. ARTICLES OF THE PACT OF UMAR We Christians: 1 - We shall not build, in our cities or in their neighborhood, new monasteries, 2 - churches, 3 - convents, 4 - or monks’ cells, 5 - nor shall we repair, by day or by night, such of them as fall in ruins 6 - or are situated in the quarters of the Muslims. . . . 7- We shall not give shelter in our churches or in our dwellings to any spy, 8 - nor hide him from the Muslims. We shall not teach the Quran to our children. 9 - We shall not manifest our religion publicly 10 - nor convert anyone to it. 11 - We shall not prevent any of our kin from entering Islam if they wish it. 12 - We shall show respect toward the Muslims, and 13 - we shall rise from our seats if they wish to sit. 14 - We shall not seek to resemble the Muslims by imitating any of their garments, the headgear, the turban, footwear, or the parting of the hair. 15 - We shall not speak as they do, 16 - nor shall we adopt their honorific names. 17 - We shall not mount on saddles, 18- nor shall we gird swords nor bear any kind of arms nor carry them on our persons. 19 - We shall not engrave Arabic inscriptions on our seals. 20 - We shall not sell fermented drinks. (i.e. Alcohol) 21 - We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. 22 - We shall only use clappers in our churches very softly. 23 - We shall not raise our voices in our church services or in the presence of Muslims, 24 - nor shall we raise our voices when following our dead. 25 - We shall not show lights on any of the roads of the Muslims or in their markets. 26 - We shall not bury our dead near the Muslims. 27 - We shall not take slave who have been allotted to the Muslims. 28 - We shall not build houses over-topping the houses of the Muslims. Once again, the UN Definition of Genocide: The United Nations defines genocide as “any… acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such…†What would happen if we turn the tables and ask all the muslims to pay 'jizya'? Guess we should keep this option open just for them. It's costing to much money to keep everything in order, just because of their medieval imperialism, all the social benefits they steal not to forget to mention.
It's wrong, but it's inevitable when you mix church (any church) and state. I'm sure that a court system run by Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson would turn out just as poorly after a few hundred years.
Are you for real? we (the UK) have laws in place to deal with everything, we don't need ancient laws imported from places that are not even developed to our developed country.
laws? what happens if you run over someone with your car? what happens if you steal? if you beat up your wife , if you sell drugs. you spend a limite dtime in prison (if you do) and most people do it again and again. It shows you that this system is a total mockery. i even heard that now if you are caught stealing you will just have to apologise. that's a bit leniant don't you think so?
Tabloid sensationalist bullshit. And the non-thinking idiots swallow it as usual. The owner of the daily express is a pornographer, he publishes Big Ones, Skinny and Wriggly, Forum, Posh Housewives and Asian Babes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Desmond
Do you have any issues with the facts of the article, or do you just not like the publisher because he engages in business dealings which violate Islamic law?
Absolutely that is what happens you commit a crime you go to jail, "if you do" refers to people being found innocent i take it? False. It shows the the system is humane, mordern & works. I can't say i've heard of that. Care to show me a link? Also if UK laws bother anyone - Don't come here stay where the law works eg Afghanistan
He is also a dirty Jew! maybe even a dirty Jew who takes the eyes out of Muslim children whilst awake, whilst the squeal in pain as i've seen in Islamic propaganda movies - No wonder they hate Jews
Naturally, he's a Jew for GODS SAKE a dirty infidel! Only listen to the truth direct from Muslims & their places of worship: http://youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo http://youtube.com/watch?v=MuCLC8kjWCI http://youtube.com/watch?v=x5t5EqWX92k http://youtube.com/watch?v=yMztM0Z7BYE http://youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zv3BUmwqs http://youtube.com/watch?v=KvjvNScmTQA If you can't be bothered to watch these videos, then they basically show Muslims wanting to impose their laws in the UK & wanting to take over. Same thing as the topic OP posted about but from a credible source & harder to deny!
They are free to want anything they want. What is your point? People kill little old ladies and rape women in the UK, what conclusions do you draw from this?
Do they have the right to impose that on other unstable Muslims by brainwashing them by saying it's Allahs will? I like how you want to use our laws to give them freedom to say what they want, yet they don't want these laws. They do it all over the world what conclusions do you draw from this? I draw the conclusion: That it's not done in the name of Allah & not preached inside churches by the leader or speaker of the church?
What are you talking about? You talk shit to be honest and whoever you "heard" that stuff from also talks shit
You are a fanatic Zionist filled with venomous hate towards Islam and Muslims, you are worthless scum.
OK and how are you any different? Ly2 could easily say... You are a fanatic muslim filled with venomous hate towards Zionist and Jews, you are worthless scum.
He started it by insulting the Koran. I don't hate Jews, and I didn't insult them so no one can accuse me of hate towards them. Zionists are fanatic colonists who believe in killing Muslims and occupying Muslims' lands, so it's natural to hate them.