Nevada to vote on legalizing marijuana

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  1. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    #121
    I think they'd be more effective in prohibiting drugs, if they targetted things a little more objectively. Right now, if you get caught with a certain amount of crack, you'll go to prison longer than if your caught with similiar or larger amounts of Cocaine...which doesn't make sense at all. They say laws like that target minorities whom use the crack, rather than the suppliers whom bring in the Cocaine.

    I'm not sure about legalizing all drugs, but weed is relatively weak in it's overall effect. Anyways, I think the trend now-a-days is towards medical drug abuse.
     
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  2. MrPoloShirt

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    #122
    We're talking about some guy who smokes a few blunts a week, not a lifetime coke user!

    This isn't about those people in prisons, most are NOT pot users.

    This thread has NOTHING to do with most of the drug users you are citing.
     
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  3. Mia

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    #123


    That brings up an interesting point. If legalized will people on welfare be able to buy their dope with food stamps? Or will the government just resort to handing out "dope stamps" to those that cannot afford their reefer?
     
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    #124
    That's the question everyone (pro legalization) wants to ignore, apparentely.
     
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    #125
    According to the show "In Living Color" you cannot buy alcohol with food stamps, so I don't see why you would be able to buy dope with them.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyorbD-G9dw
     
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    #126

    True, but try this little twist. What if you need it for medical reasons? Dopeacade!

    If they do legalize it, they should make it illegal to drive under the influcence. Illinois drivers are slow enough as it is, I cannot imagine 99% of them baked in their Bimmers.
     
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    #127
    It costs nearly $50k to keep a prisoner for 17 months, the average term.

    Not to mention the court costs, police costs, drug test, etc.

    And no, you cant get alcohol or cigarettes AFAIK with food stamps so you shouldnt be allowed pot with them either.
     
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    #128
    can someone explain to me what makes MJ worse than alcohol?
     
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    #129
    This is a very good point.

    When commercial marijuana is introduced and the breeders are able to come out and actually work together to create more powerful strains, it will probably get to the point of 50% THC. Less smoke for a better high= less (short term) lung damage.
     
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    #130
    Nothing, if anything the side effects of mj are much better than alcohol.
     
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  11. Mia

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    #131
    I guess it is really a matter of perception. Both with excessive use, or use in an inapropriate situation can be harmful to you.

    Take guns for example. Are they bad? If you point one at your head and pull the trigger, yes. If not.... I guess they are not much worse than alcohol or the reefer.

    Hell, food is worse that MJ to some people. Too much of anything is bad for you. Though I like a little too much beer every now and then, and I personally just don't care for dope. Just the smell makes me sick.
     
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    #132
    They can't. I even posted links to stats to show the comparison that were apparently ignored.
    I kind of sympathize with them though because they were(as I was) indoctrinated with the anti-marijuana
    set of "facts" from an very early age.

    MJ is not only less harmful than alcohol, it is not even in the same ballpark as far as harmfulness. I'm not saying it's harmless because it's not. It's just nowhere near as harmful(in so many different ways) as alcohol.

    Marijuana use also does not cause people to commit crimes, it causes them to watch Sponge Bob.


    Also, there is another big difference between marijuana and the other illicit drugs(seemingly thick headed people seem to want to lump them all together as "drugs"); that is, that the other illicit
    drugs actually caused a problem in society before they were criminalized. The same can not be said for marijuana.
    Most of the American public didn't know what the hell marijuana was in the 1930's.
    It was pretty much just Mexican migrant workers and jazz musicians that were doing it.
    The whole marijuana "scourge" was a concoction by, it appears, people in the wood pulp and fiber industry and people in the government whom were invested in those industries.

    I would assert, perhaps somewhat boldly, that there has never actually been a "marijuana problem" in the United States(not counting problems that came as a consequence of criminalization).
     
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    #133
    It most likely won't pass. Most of the supporters here in Vegas don't vote anyway.

    The law not only legalizes up to an ounce of pot, it also doubles prison terms and fines. Additionally, selling or giving pot to a minor becomes a Class B felony.

    Here's a funny part of the proposed law. It would still be illegal to have "possession in public." So, how are you supposed to get it from a legal location to your home without possessing it in public?

    By the way, possessing an ounce of pot here is only a misdemeanor already, so the argument of passing this to not burden courts doesn't hold water.
     
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    #134
    why would it be any different then alcohol

    pretty much people just beleive in some type of drug boogey man,

    that the moment some one gets high they run and get on welfare

    And somehow paying anything into welfare is bad, but paying into imprisioning 2 million of their fellow citizens is OK, because they are "drug losers"
     
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    #135
    I bet pod and stuff will be cheaper if it will be legit )
    Well, people still need to get fast detox drinks to keep their jobs if they were lucky to have good weekend...
    Alcohol, ugh, second life for low life...
     
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    #136
    Legalize it! How can something god created be wrong :)
     
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    #137
    Wow, that's and interesting analogy. Where you stoned when you said it?
     
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    #138
    And what's wrong with that? Welfare covers other medicine. But i doubt this would be the case because in states like California where it's legal for medical reasons, medicare doesn't cover it because it's a schedule I drug and not actually "prescribed", just recommended by doctors.

    So I wouldn't worry, your tax dollars will go to the drug companies for expensive pills, not for dirt cheap seeds and growing supplies for pot.
     
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    #139
    It's about time North America started to do the right thing.

    I don't smoke weed, but I still think it's wrong how people are locked up for smoking it.
     
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    #140
    TBH veeerryyy stoned! Even now I'm smoking :)
    But whats the big deal? Drugs are part of this world, and if you dream of a drug free society dream on, that will never happen. People do it anyways and no effort to stop it will ever succed. Even the best army in the world and the biggest drug enforcement agency cannot stop Afghanistan from being a growing producer of opium. So why should it ever work in the USA or any other country? Why give all the profit to the black market if you could put a tax on it and use the money to give people assistants in order to make em quit? And use the money and ressources saved by the law inforcement to concentrate on more important issues. Like uuhmm.. terrorism :rolleyes:
     
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