Can US wins the war with Iran?

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  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #121
    Nope. There is no time left in the current administration to plan and execute an event of that magnitude.

    It is up to Bush's successor to deal with the threat from Iran.
     
    Will.Spencer, May 2, 2007 IP
  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #122
    My bad, brotherman! To further compound the issue, I had an oil change in my car two weeks ago. Even worse, I paid extra for Valvoline oil in my truck about a month ago. I can't believe I spent money on OIL!!!!! OMG!!!! Not only have I oppressed you by earning an income, but I helped the evil "oil man" earn record profits by changing the oil in my vehicles! Jeez, no wonder I'm an infidel!
     
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  3. turhapuro

    turhapuro Peon

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    #123
    Here is some answers to you all.

    I have seen many people talk about nukes here, but there is something you don't
    understand. Firstly, president George Bush has changed the law in a way that he
    can more easily use nukes against countries that do not posses nuclear weapons
    (Scary i know, bush is an idiot). Secondly if bush would be stupid enough to use
    nuclear weapons, USA would be in serious shit. It still amazes me how can
    americans be stupid enough to re-elect that monster, cant they see that Bush
    has Hitler written all over him.

    Do you seriously belive that international community would allow this to happen?
    Putin for one would not, if nukes start flying in iran you can damn sure to expect
    a world war III, since china, russia and many other countries aint gonna have it.
    There are limits to what one nation can do and what not, that is why we have
    alliances. You see, China and Russia dont want USA to get stronger, they will
    strike before its too late. If Russia and China would declare alliance and a war
    against USA, it would be all over for USA. USA would not stand a change, many
    people in USA view russians as old rusty superpower, but thats not the case. Russia
    is 10 times more powerful these days than the avarage USA citizen belives. Soon as
    this would happen, Bush would cry help from UK, only to be turned down. Also, if
    USA attacks Iran, they will be fighting multiple enemies in Asia and Middle East.

    "If you are not with us, you are against us" - The world against USA (What are the
    changes of survival? Sure USA can nuke every country in the world times 10. And
    every nuclear country in the world can nuke usa times 100, what is left - nothing.

    Iran is not like Iraq, there is a HUGE difference. Iran has a large military, and
    they have bought large arsenal of anti air weaponry from russians. Not only have
    they bought anti air, but lot of different weaponry from russians, infact they
    have been useing huge amounts of money in weaponry! Iran has a lot friends like
    Russia, those people that think Russia or China would be too scared to declare war
    are dead wrong. If USA don't change their way of thinking, then its all over.

    Iraq had almost no defences against invasion, and it took Bush forever to take on
    the country, Imagine Iran, that would take ages! Most USA citizens are blind to the
    fact that war with Iran would be the beginning of the end for USA. Thats why Iran
    is so ruthless, they know it! USA simply can not afford this war.

    It's amazing how blind USA citizens can be, how can they belive a "War on Terror".
    You can't win a war against strategy, terrorism is a strategy not an enemy, war
    on terror is only excuse to wage war. It's time to wake up Americans, you are
    already hated in the world and to be honest this is the first time that people
    around the world are scared of americans. Not because they are superpower, but
    because of insane president that could use nukes. If he does, Americans are left
    alone, and they will face the wrath of the rest of the world. You can forget about
    allies, you are not going to get any. When i see hillbillies like GTech, Will.Spencer
    and the rest of the war mongering morons, i understand why bush was re-elected. It's
    just amazing how many retards can you fit in to one country. I'm not genius my self,
    but the general opinion about americans have changed in europe. When you go to
    public places in europe, you can hear people talking about crazy Bush...

    If people all around world, think that your president is insane, does that not ring
    an alarm in your head or do you simply think that other people are retards compared
    to Americans? Even people in your congress are very alarmed, DOESENT THAT TELL YOU
    SOMETHING? ARE YOU FKING MORONS? Will said that there is no time with current
    administration to plan and execute war of that magnitude in Iran. You are dead
    wrong, Bush will attack in Iran before he runs out of time, he does not care to plan
    for it, he just wants in and fast, no matter what the cost.
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #124
    Good to hear! Got a URL?

    Yes, of course. No reasonable country is going to get itself nuked for Iran.

    What in the hell are you thinking?

    Are you seriously stupid enough to believe that China will think "Ok, the US nuked Iran, we should nuke the US." No. That's moronic.

    It took less time for the U.S. Armed Forces to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, TX.

    But, we probably won't even bother with Iran. Nukes are cheaper.

    You really are ignorant about so many things. I'm not sure where to start.

    How old are you? Don't they have schools where you live?
     
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  5. M Nabil

    M Nabil Peon

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    #125
    A war on Iran basically means a world war and it means besides the destruction of Iran :


    - Destruction of US military bases in the middle east, central Asia, and eastern Europe.

    - annihilation of US troops in the middle east.

    - Sinking of US carriers in the middle east.

    - Destruction of Israel.

    - Attacks on US interests worldwide.

    - ........... you can imagine the political and economical results.
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #126
    Bahahahahahaha... do you backwards-assed sheet heads have some magic weapons that we don't know about?

    Is this going to be "The Mother of All Battles" little Saddam?

    Sorry, not impressed.

    No one with any power gives a damn about Iran.

    So strap on your suicide vests and have a gay old time, because that's really all you've got.
     
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  7. turhapuro

    turhapuro Peon

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    #127
    Will.spencer i don't know in what kind of dream world do you live in?
    Do you really think that Russians or Chinese fear US? Those countries
    can team up with lot of other countries, also UN will throw US out if
    they attack without permission.

    US is not as strong as most of you belive, if Russia would declare war
    against US, you would be in some serious shit. You would find your
    self in a logistic hell, without oil and support. All military bases in middle
    east would be invaded in no time.

    Do you know that fighting Russia is not like fighting Iraq? I live in Finland
    and russians scared the hell out of us when they had military practice in
    the borders of finland. There were 550 Jet Bombers flying torwards Helsinki,
    at the last minute they turned away at the border. Also are you aware that
    Russians have the largest nuclear devices in the world?

    Here is a linky for you, this is an old russian nuclear bomb long time ago.
    It creates 180km wide fireball =) thats around 110 miles, also the fireball
    was 25 miles high. In the old days russians didn't have good missle
    technology, but in these days the picture is quite different. Would you like
    to have one of these in your backyard? I sure would not... Bombs in these
    days are even bigger..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiyUSv2Z07A
    Enjoy!

    To be honest, i don't care what US does if they invade 50% of the world i
    don't care, as long as i don't need to fight.
     
    turhapuro, May 3, 2007 IP
  8. M Nabil

    M Nabil Peon

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    #128
    Why do you resort to name calling ? Is it because you are hateful ? is it because you are rude ? didn't your parents teach you some manners ? is it because the likes of you want to see Iran reduced to rubble but you can't ?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Iran

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_military_industry


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran's_missile_forces



    Iranian made Shahab-3 Missile
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    Iranian made Submarine Nahang 1

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    Iranian made sonar-evading underwater missile.

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #129
    I thought Iran had only AK47s ;)
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #130
    Iran has a lot of stuff which will be vaporized if we decide to nuke them. :rolleyes:
     
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    #131
    I think US cant win the war
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #132
    Have you seen the condition of the Russian Army lately? It's pathetic! It's third-world. Moreover, Putin knows this. He's afraid to start more trouble with Chechnya, much less the U.S.

    And he certainly isn't going to war with the U.S. over a bunch of sheet heads. Enough of his people have been killed by these relics from the 6th century that he has no love for their ilk.

    The Chinese are going to opposite direction technically but the same direction politically. The Chinese armed forces are getting better every year -- but the Chinese are not in any way interested in a war with their #1 trading partner.

    I will make this perfectly clear: Neither Russia nor China will risk war with the U.S. over a bunch of camel fuckers.

    And as for the U.N. -- who the hell cares? If we quit, the UN falls apart. After we won the the Cold War, the UN ceased to serve any useful purpose. Fuck it.
     
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    turhapuro Peon

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    #133
    Muahahah, if you Nuke iran the whole world will curse and hate you! That
    would lead to WW3. That is a fact, it is not possibility. Iran knows this
    very well, check what professionals say, there are many defense and
    offense forums in the internet. By reading many of those you can see
    that the picture is not as bright for US as you might think.
     
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  14. Will.Spencer

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    #134
    Oh no, I'll cry. :rolleyes:

    Oh great, suddenly I'm supposed to get my political and military analysis from Internet forums. Right-O. Next, I'll stop seeing doctors, lawyers, and accountants because I can just learn everything I need to know from teenage boys on Internet forums. :cool:
     
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    #135
    You are sadly mistaken about Russian military, you can find lots of pictures
    of almost sinking rusty subs in russian ports, but those are old subs. They
    have huge navy, and it is battle ready. Also China has lots of intrests in
    Iran. They don't give a rats ass about trading partners if the world peace
    is in danger, Russians and Chinese don't want stronger US. China has talked
    about this issue and so has Putin.
     
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  16. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #136
    Let's take another tack at this:

    If YOU were Vladimir Putin, would YOU commit national suicide for the sake of a bunch of sheet heads that you don't like anyway?
     
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    #137
    Will.Spencer your replies show that you have no respect for other nations.
    Your current goverment has the same problem, you are just a sad example.
    Infact you are a person not worth arguing with, you don't have common
    sense, nor do you understand anything about Russians or Chinese.
     
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  18. Will.Spencer

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    #138
    Bahahaaahaha.. I'll take that as an "I surrender."

    You haven't made a single point since you joined this thread and I'm not sad to see you go.
     
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    #139
    It would be suicide not to attack, cause while us grows stronger and more
    arogant, the odds are smaller. You don't seem to know how goverments think.
     
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    turhapuro Peon

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    #140
    Are we at war? This is some kinda fking game for you?
     
    turhapuro, May 3, 2007 IP
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