Its a sad world we live in when almost an entire religion is looked at as being a terrorist organization...
There is so much double talk, it is hard to know. I was friends for awhile with a muslim on the DP forum and would read his blog and thought he was a moderate. Then one day I read one of his entries praising the taliban and saying how great they are. Not as trusting anymore... D16, that is true wish things were better
moderates or not, they all have a function on their wider goal. They need the numbers for headcount. They need "moderates" to establish their culture on administration level(that's what they are doing now). There are too many of them who don't know what's going on, they are just kept functional. Believe it or not, moderates believe to work for a good cause, while we know the tactics of their executives and spiritual leaders. Conclusion: Don't get trapped by their arguements and look at the wider picture.
I've experienced that a few times, a fake nice side & really they hate you. I even knew one that hated the UK (i mean HATED) buts lives here (this was years ago.)
I didn't see anyone arrested from the cabinet who caused these either. It shows? Same? One-sided opinion again? I don't think anyone needs moderate Muslims, since there's nothing like that exists as said and since extremism is not a form of the Islamic belief. I can say "wheres' the moderate Christians" when christian extremists consitently throw mess around here and some even goes above his head and dares to teach it when all he knows is a couple of translated scriptures. Who reacted to the guy who said "Muslims should be kicked from EU and US, nuke em' all" etcetera, i saw noone, you expect people react to extremism when you don't, what sort of honesty is this..
Statistic says, The dualism of Islam is more deceitful and offers two choices on how to treat the unbeliever. The unbeliever can be treated nicely, in the same way a farmer treats his cattle well. So Islam can be “niceâ€, but in no case is the unbeliever a “brother†or a friend. In fact, there are some 14 verses of the Koran that are emphatic-a Muslim is never a friend to the unbeliever. A Muslim may be “friendly,†but he is never an actual friend. And the degree to which a Muslim is actually a true friend is the degree to which he is not a Muslim, but a hypocrite.
These are your leaders we are talking about not some random poster on an internet message board that's the difference. Also if you want to start about posters on DP, then why is it that when something is posted by a member about terrorists the first thing a Muslim does is defend the terrorist or terrorist action, instead of saying "digusting" they most often say "oh he's not a Muslim" etc If a Christian leader came out with the same things many of your leaders do then there would be an uproar from Christians. Nobody said nuke Muslims i'm pretty sure of that.
Whose leaders? Do you think Hamas is Islamic version of Vatican or something? They have no such title given nor will be. And what is happening all around the world, isn't there anything to blame from your side? Are you like.. angels or something, wheres' the uproaaargh, i can't really see anything but "defend no matter what", i am saving my rep to that person who will do self-criticism some time, doubtfully will ever happen. Search the forum and you'll see crack load of Christian extremism towards Muslims, first you guys should react your own extremists, before expecting it, but wait, they are only telling the "truths" so nothing to oppose, right?
Your religious leaders who promote hate at mosques in front of their flock everyday. Yes no doubt it's America's fault etc we are hunting osama in Afghanistan & killing the Taliban, i can't say i'm in uproar about it though. I don't recall any leader saying anything bad about Muslims or saying they should all be killed along with Jews, blacks & whatever else in a church. Officially your religion is preaching hate from their places of worship, please show me the same from Christians
Okay, if you say you guys are not faulty and have nothing to oppose to from your side, anyone can claim the very same. Very great solution, no more comment needed.
You can't even see the diffrence between the message coming from your mosques your Muslim leaders & your religion than those coming from DP posts, the comparision your trying to make is flawed, so yes no further comments are needed. These leaders are speaking for your religion if you don't like it it's up to you to take your religion back, it should be you that is upset they are getting your religion a bad name. DP members don't speak on my behalf or for my religion. Let's put it another way, there's a member of dp called commados who stated he supports hamas. Now lets say a church priest in England said all Muslims should be killed & you took issue with that (saying if i were a christian) & you asked me what i thought of it & i said: "oh but he doesn't represent Christians" or "he doesn't represent me" "look what Muslim leaders did hundreds of years ago" & you say you dont condem it? & then i said "oh but before you ask me to condem the priest you must condem commandos" What would you think of my argument? since you have no further comment just think that over!
Not really sure what your looking for here. Are we to blame for terrorism? With 911, were we just asking for it? It's our fault there are evil terrorists killing everyone in the name of allah? What about the peaceful buddhist people in Thailand, were they just asking for it as well?
These are the murdering bastards that the Democratic presidential candidates blame George Bush for not making peace with. I don't see how anyone can be so ignorant as to live in the fantasy world that the Democratic candidates appear to inhabit.