Woman in Escort Case Plans to Name Names in Defense

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Briant, Apr 28, 2007.

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Is this a good idea?

  1. Good Idea--likey no jail, happy ending for her.

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  2. Watch your back.

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  3. No effect on outcome

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  4. other

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  1. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    Again, you are thinking that their drug use harms no one, and again I say there are thousands of children in every state that are harmed by their parents drug use. I bet you would be neglecting any kids you didn't have killed already right now, since obviously all this time I thought you had some mental issue when in fact it stems from drug use.

    Try to read all your posts someday sober (meaning free from ALL drugs and alcohol) then you might understand what I am saying. Some days are worse than others, but most of the time you are at the very least missing the mark.

    The children are the victims, so are those who are stolen from, shot, raped, worrying about their runaway child, etc....

    There are victims in your so-called victimless crimes, but since you want to believe you are only hurting yourself (and I doubt you even believe the drugs are hurting you) you will keep on going the direction you are.
     
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  2. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #82
    Yes and there are even more kids hurt by their parents, alcohol abuse.

    There are also thousands of people who use drugs recreationally with virtually no ill effects

    here we go with baby killing arguements, jeez back to reality debunked, your blabbering emotional arguements are pathetic

    its obvious that you cannot debate the merits of your opinion when you try to resort to personal attacks

    I don't drink or do ANY drugs, my only vice is an occasional newport cigerette

    Missing the mark? The mark is you and others want the goverment to control personal lives and personal choices. Why? Why do you want the goverment to tell you what to do in your home?

    Will you stop "think of children" arguements, children are just little people. They are no more or less important then adults.

    Because children exist is not the basis or persecuting adults.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #83
    LOL, you sure are a funny one...

    I am not sure what you are thinking (again) but hey, its ok, I knew many of those people in Santa Cruz that had no ill effects from pot... sure, they were all a bit retarded, but that isn't an ill effect.

    Emotional? I will have to show that to my wife. (I may be collecting life insurance when she dies from laughter.)

    Personal attack? ok... whatever. Boo hoo. stop crying, I like to pull punches sometimes to get my point across. (another one coming, beware.)

    Children in this case are more important, you have an adult who is suppose to take care of a child and can't because of drugs or alcohol (usually both to some degree) and the child suffers - sure you seem to hate kids, but you were actually one once. Maybe you had bad parents or parent that was not much of one because of drugs, that doesn't mean all kids deserve it.
     
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    #84
    There are thousands of people who do drug occasionally and have no real ill effects. Maybe the people you knew were already a bit retarded before they started smoking pot.

    Being fat is less healthy then being an occasional drug user, being fat is probably one of the most unhealthy things you can do to your body. Do you think the government should make fatty food illegal?

    So what. There are people out there who neglect their kids for all sorts of reasons, that doesn't mean that people who don't neglect their kids need to punished for them.

    There are men that spend all their money on fancy cars and mistresses rather then take care of thier kids, should fancy cars be made illegal?
     
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    Well, I think we lost ferret to the effects....
     
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    #86
    it ok debunked I know you have no real answers because your opinion is totally based on emotions rather then reality or logic
     
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    #87
    sure.... ok. Ask anyone here about my "emotional" based opinions and those based on reality, you may find that it is quite the opposite. I live in reality, I have taken care of the children (one is here now as I type) of those who have occasional use drugs...

    You have yet to really bring anything to the table on any discussion in P&R - Dinosaurs ... need I say more?
     
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    #88
    if smoking pot occasionally makes you unable to care for your children, then its not the pot that person is just an asshole

    and either way you just listed more proof that the current system is not working
     
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    I am also talking about people currently not in jail and can't even take care of themselves let alone children. They lose there jobs, house, license, etc... from committing "victimless" crimes like stealing from their boss, not showing up, not paying rent, driving under the influence, etc... and the child is just extra baggage. These people have a chance and a choice to get their kids back, but the addiction usually wins.

    I have one great story about a parent who changed, but more often the stories are sad.
     
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    #92
    go smoke some more...your posts are starting to make an inkling of sense...
     
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