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That's bullshit

That’s like saying, I don't own an assault rifle or watch bowling so its ok to make them both illegal, because hey I'm not interested in them

I don't drink wine, so lets make it illegal, all you wine drinkers need to take responsibility ...

The authoritarian viewpoints you guys subscribe too pretty scary, and pretty hypocritical for people who don't believe in "big government"

Why do you guys want a nanny state so bad?

I still got to say though

this quote

has got to be scariest/asinine one ever, its crazy someone actually thinks that

 

I have taken care of the children of victimless crimes and I know some families that have taken on some children permanently from these victimless crimes. I suppose since they are only children they should be aborted at any age so that these victimless crimes would be victimless.

BTW, it isn't the jail that takes the parents from the kids, it is the drug use. Do you know how many children are left alone due to victimless crimes?

I don't see how being children make them less of a victim, in fact to me that makes them more of one because they can't just take care of themselves!

People like you can really piss me off. You somehow think defenseless babies and children are somehow less then human and do not deserve to live or have a victim status?!?

 

wow, holy out in left field

I say the people who are addicts and or prostitutes should be treated rather then jailed and you say

what are you talking about?

 

No, that's reality. What you offered as comparison is BS.

There is a difference.

I also know there is a great likelyhood that a prostitute will have some sort of crotch crickets, the worst being potentially aids. Therefore, in addition to moral reasons, I do not frequent prostitutes. Consequences.

Not everyone chooses to take the lazy way through life, hoping consequences do not catch up with them.

 

You said victimless crimes - I showed you the victims.

I agree they need help more than jail, trust me I have been around enough people in and out of jail and in and out of treatment. We will have a child for a couple of days this week that the mother is one of those. All three of her children are victims to the crime. Although the crime is actually child neglect/abuse if you ask me. The problem stems from the drug use.

 

well following your logic you want the government to force consquences for arbitary reasons on people, rather then them deceiding for themselves

 

Problems stem for alcohol abuse, drug abuse, mental illness etc

How does locking someone up away from their family help the situation:?

If someone is crack head does it make more sense to supervise them, and make them go to treatment, where they can still work and take care of kids etc

Or to lock them up and send their children to state wards?

Believe it or not its actually cheaper to treat someone then to incarerate them, it costs something like 30k a year to jail someone

 

Yes, to the degree of what I posted. And that's not unreasonable. Let's visit a few examples:

I go to the mall. Some young angry white male with a low IQ and low self-esteem whose parents didn't give him enough attention in his early years decides to unload a Glock 26 or Kahr PM9 (my personal favorite) and I am shot. I would rather the government impose a penalty on him, then for him to sit in his room and think about a fitting punishment for himself. I'd say that's fairly reasonable, wouldn't you?

Having illegal drugs is illegal. I don't want them where I live. I've spent my life abiding by the law, though admittedly in my younger years I smoked some hooch. I knew the consequences. If someone is caught with drugs, let them do the time. They know the consequences. If they have a family, they should not risk it. Is that unreasonable?

I know that prostitution is illegal here. I know where I could go to indulge in such behavior if I wanted to. But I know the consequences, so I choose not to. Those consequences included potential jail time, embarrassment, potential loss of my wife and potentially contracting an STD or aids. There are consequences for those actions, therefore I choose not to do them. Those that choose to participate in illegal activities should have consequences.

This is one of the problems our society faces today. Poor parents that do not teach their children about consequences.

 

Quite often, that incarceration is offset by the inmate working.

 

BS rarely, only a few states still use chain gangs etc

And that essentially makes even more incentive to lock people up, to get free labor from them

I'm sure many a good old boy in texas has been out making up bogus arrests to fill those chain gangs

probably one of you buds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2808417.stm

 

yet again we are talking about non-violent crimes, dummy

yes, like I said before I hate bowling, let make it illegal? why not?

People like to get high, they obviously want to get high where they live, I doubt many of them want to go get high at your house, so why do you care what they do at there own house?

Why should the state dictate the consquences? Why can't people just live their choices without the government budding in?

 

I'm not talking about chain gangs. Most prisons have a work program.

Conspiracy. Prison gaurds are not police.

I'm sure in real life you probably are a "good old boy." You're fading away here. Stick with the facts.

Nope, but happened not too far from here. He had consequences for his actions too. Perhaps you'd rather this office sit in his room and think about what he did and impose his own punishment? Standards, ferret! Standards!

 

what stamping lisence plates?

Police arrest people and help convict them

the guy got probation

http://www.justicedenied.org/issue/issue_27/coleman_convicted.html

The innocent people he set up spent more time locked up then he did.

You guys probably had a party down there when he walked

 

FWIW:

http://www.fff.org/comment/com0311b.asp

 

Among other things. I figured you'd have more experience in this area that I would. Have you heard of google? It's pretty cool!

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=prison+work+programs&btnG=Google+Search

That's a good thing. How do they benefit from prison inmates working, as you suggested?

I didn't follow the final disposition. It's still in the news though. Those he wronged can now file wrongful imprisonment suits. Really, it has nothing to do with the current debate though. It's a nice "gotcha, some bad popo did something wrong where you live," but it doesn't change anything in the discussion. Kind of a cheesy tactic, but I'd expect nothing less.

It was as big as the party you threw on 9/11.

 

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=3561639

Good grief, I'm reminded of someone...or someones:

 

police are employed by the state, city , county who benefits from the free labor

 

Lots of people are employed by the city, county, state. A heartwarming assumption, but let's not go tinfoil. You're better than that.

 

is it free labor? last time I checked those inmates do get compensation for what they do...they are then allowed to buy things like cigarettes, etc...

 

Its very common for police to suddenly crack down in election years because someone running wants to look tough on crime, the message trickles down and the arrests go up

Why would it be any different ?

Why do think the government should arrest people for what they do in the privacy of their own homes?

Why do you think millions of recreational drug users should be made into criminals, for doing something that harms no one but themselves. There are many people who get addicted to alcohol and ruin their lives and families, yet we are free to buy alcohol at every corner store, why should drugs be any different.