Because if your accusation are true we can rant on how DMOZ is corrupt at lest until that editor gets removed. Which directory does bring traffic? When submitting to dozens of directories one more less makes little difference in time wasted and DMOZ actually takes less time since it is one of few not asking for a backlink.
Of all the directories I've submitted too, the only traffic I've noticed thus far, has been two visits from Alexa, one converted to a member of my forum. So YAY 4 ODP clones! I'm not saying I haven't gotten any from others, just saying I've not noticed...but I'll check again at the end of this month. Q
Most directories I have websites listed send me about one visitor per month, sometimes two! So math is simple if I list in 1000 directories that is 1-2000 extra visitors each month.
Alot bring traffic, and its no time wasted as i have someone to submit my sites to 1,000 directories with PR5-8 and no backlink required at almost 100% inclusion rate. I've submitted hundreds of sites to DMOZ over the years with about 10% inclusion rate, so you tell me whats a waste? And thats not factoring in the absurd timeframe from submit to inclusion with ODP, and the fact webmasters are kept clueless throughout the ordeal.
I've tried submitting many of my sites (all of my sites), all perfectly following the guidelines that I re-read over every ****ing time. I submit it to the category I think fits it best, and then wait. And wait. Can't they at least send a "You are Denied - Go **** yourself" in a Bostonian accent email to me? I'd rather get that with Alec Baldwin telling me to go *** my mother than get absolutely nothing at all. I mean, even just a simple email that states "Hi, your site BLAH has been added to the queue - when a moderator takes an action on it you will be alerted" then when a moderator DOES take an action a simple "Your site was accepted on DMOZ" would be nice. But if it isn't - god save the queen - can we not get at least a "Go F*** yourself, and your little dog too - we don't want your sites"? Is it really that hard on their servers to code and do with an automated email?
Maybe its obvious with the language that you use that no DMOZ editor would want to tell you anything about your sites.
His language may not be the best but everything he says needs to be done. It would be no extra work for the editors since it would most likely all be automated. The only reason DMOZ is still alive if because google and a few other search engines use it. I know there are editors out there that take pride in their work with DMOZ and I appreciate their efforts but a large percentage obviously don't. Just take a look at the large number of sites in DMOZ that don't meet their so called guidelines. I would rather DMOZ start charging us a fee for a review so they can get more organized, add a few more features and communicate with the submitters. Or better yet, Google should just start their own Directory to replace DMOZ in there listings (and then they can take over the world ).
I bet they would get more editors if they got a cut on the fee... If they do that though, I'd assume they would do it like yahoo, where paying is not a guarantee for inclusion, just a review. Though, if that is the case, they better upgrade a bit and allow for emailing a YAY or NAY letter!
Ok if DMOZ piles up submissions wherein editors may not be assigned etc, what about resubmitting to another category which fits your site well, in hopes that you might get an editor who is more up to date? What would it hurt??
If your site has been accepted into the Open Directory, it may take anywhere from 2 weeks to several months for your site to be listed on partner sites which use the Open Directory data, such as AOL Search, Google, Netscape Search, Yahoo Search, and hundreds of other sites. We make updates of the data available weekly, but each partner has their own update schedule. http://dmoz.org/add.html
I sort of disagree with that... 1./2. You may want to resubmit your site if there have been extensive updates and you would like the listing to reflect the current topics of the site and maybe it will fit into a different category than what you originally submitted it to. Even if you site is already listed, there is always a possibility that you want to update it, even if it means sitting in line for review for a while. 3. If you think you've been rejected and have worked on your site extensively since the last time you submitted, then I personally think it is an okay idea to resubmit your site. You need to have unique and useful content and put it to the right category. I am pretty sure I have been rejected because A. wrong category submitted to, and B. My site is just run of the mill, nothing special. I remember reading here on Digital Point the other day about an editor submitting a site that he/she had found on the internet, it had something to do with racoons..the editor found the site useful and unique. I do not know how long you should wait before attempting to send it back through, 3-6 months sounds like a reasonable amount of time, but be creative and spruce things up! These are just opinions. I think there was/is a place in their forums for site submission status, I'm not sure if they are still doing this. Check in the "resourcezone". PS. I forgot my password there (resourcezone) and still waiting on the reply email for the password reset for about 3 weeks now. Can still browse though.
To get listed on ODP...become an editor!...then, you will be able to review your submission of this category you r being an editor for.... Anyways the poeple who review your site are all volunteers...
Right, but .. that doesn't change the fact that your site sucks. A higher up can come along and review your work and remove it, and no doubt you'll be under scrutiny during your newbieness. Don't forget that you have to reveal your site affiliations when you sign up as an editor. http://dmoz.org/guidelines/conflict.html
Ah DMOZ famous guidelines, the editors don't even follow those for the most part when adding sites to the directory. They are so far behind in reviewing sites, I bet they hardly ever review the editors themselves, let alone the submissions the editor makes. They need to start charging for the review process (or at least offer a speeding review service) (like yahoo does) to get more editors and to upgrade there system to include more feedback.
You are under the common misguided impression that DMOZ is there as some sort of service to list suggested websites. It does not offer that service (it does, however let anyone suggest a site for conisderation, but that is just one of the many ways that an editor may choose to use to find sites for a category. An editor is under no obligation to use the suggested sites). 1000's of other directories offer a good submission processing services - its just that DMOZ is not in that business. Funny thing is that DMOZ lists more sites in a day, than many of those 1000's of others have listed in total!!!
Sadly, in many sections the only way to get listed is that way. Even sadder is how your statement is true.
No, I am under the impression that DMOZ is there to offer a list of good quality sites for users, broken out by category. Obviously suggested sites are a good source to draw from, the other being the editors own expertise in the category. The problem is some categories are well done while others are not and haven't been in touched in a while. This is why DMOZ is not working. They need more editors (or editors with more time) and maybe a financial bonus would help. If they are suppose to be one of the best directories out there, they better start acting like it.
Actually many editors do just that most of there time, in the end this causes more damage then good since editor who doesn't have a single clue about topic become paranoid reading descriptions which use words other then "website offers..." and scream marketing hype.