Woman in Escort Case Plans to Name Names in Defense

I noticed you skipped my original question

 

I think this story is of interest because it goes to the hypocrisy of a lot of public officials who say not a word about the prosecution of people for engaging in activity that they may well have engaged in--and may still engage in. And if they try to nail this woman, it might get very interesting.

 

where's the benefit? I thought I did answer that. If the costs then are the same as now. Then why?

Ferret, let's say you own a home someplace. Is it a good thing or a bad thing when the hookers move in? And start working the streets? Is that a place you'd want to raise your family? Part 2, if the hookers are there - is there a higher likelihood or a lower likelihood that drug dealers will also work there. Part 3, Given 1 and 2, do you think your kids (if you had any) could go out to the park in the evening and feel safe?

Hasn't she already been nailed. (come on; that was obvious).

 

Maybe you have a point

 

You totally skipped what I said though.

The answers to all of those would be quite different if it were legalized.

I'm not understanding you... are you saying it is hypocrisy for any public official to prosecute this woman, because other many other public officials engaged in this activity and didn't get caught? I would think you would need specific examples of someone being publicly against prostitution (voting for anti-prostitution legislation, or had strong views that would naturally lead someone to believe that they were professing to be anti-prostitution (ie. Jimmy Swaggart) and then evidence of them using their services before you could attach the tag of hypocrisy, really.

I mean, I'm sure you are right... I just don't know of any specific examples. But remember, it's not the public officials who are prosecuting her, it's the legal system. The anti-prostitution laws, I'm pretty sure, way pre-date the terms of anyone in office right now.

-Michael

 

I didn't think you were being serious, to be honest. That's why. The comment was silly, on its face.

A drug test to get your nut off? Why not a breathalizer before stepping into a car? A test to make sure the food you were eating is healthy enough? You are essentially turning everyone into a criminal, arent you?

I think brothels were legalized in some parts of australia, right? Let's take that as a case example. It hasn't reduced crime or anything. It's increased human sex trade trafficking instead. Assuming legalization will cure the ills hasn't worked elsewhere, what evidence is there that it would this time?

 

What I'm saying is for years we have had these people like Clinton, Bush, Gingrinch, etc. do nothing at all about drug laws, which they themselves violated. Now if we find a bunch of people who were of the same ilk engaged in suspicious activity in this case, it would just provide another example of how the how these types of laws are just not taken very seriously by the people in our government who are theoretically supposed to be maintaining the system.

 

See, no, you're the one being silly. Who said anything about a drug test? Were you by any chance on probation recently...? (and no, not a jab, just trying to see why the first thought was drug testing. )

It should have been obvious that I was talking about an STD test before engaging in sexual activity with a licensed sexual professional.

Well, I am a strong proponent of of breathalyzer ignition devices for offenders. I am even somewhat for making them standard on all vehicles.

Now you've gone out of the realm of what we are talking about, and kinda skewed there:

a) Testing is required, it's what the FDA and food inspection and health inspectors in restaurants are all about, BUT...
b) totally unrelated to this conversation... food poisoning is not contagious from one person to the next.

How you got from regulating prostitution to that is beyond me... is there a game on today?

It's not about assuming that it will make things better (although it will). It's not being suggested as a cure for anything other than the fact that it shouldn't be illegal in the first place.

-Michael

 

What's the benefit? Thousands of americans not spending their lives in prisions and jails obviously, its supposed to be land of the free

Why would my kids more important then the hookers or drug dealers? They are all people, do think hookers and drug dealers don't have kids of their own?

What about those kids who have thier parents taken away from them because of these BS laws?

I think you think that these addicts and hookers are not real people, so its very easy for you say just lock them up, well they are people. They peoples parents , kids, cousins etc

 

So you'd be okay to living next to a crack dealer, meth factory and a few prostitutes. And, more than that, you are okay with these people having kids live with them? I think you should rethink things, just a little.

Do you think prostitution is a good career decision? And more than that, you think its normal and healthy for child to grow up knowing mom is a prostitute and dad makes meth in the basement? That's wonderful!

Freedom means obeying the law. Not doing what you want.

 

Prostitution is abuse of weak or poor people.

 

Thats the difference between terrorist supporters and those that truly are happy to have freedom...

 

Is there something Orwellian about this, or is it just me

It reminds me a bit of this:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020618-1.html

http://www.studentsfororwell.org/

 

"Would you live with ease? Do what you ought, not what you please." - Benjamin Franklin.

 

its not a matter of if its "okay" it's a matter or reality

There are always going to be addicts and alcoholics

Everyone is equal in the this country, you or whoevers kids are not better then anyone else

If those activities where legal and regulated they would be better controled

There are kids in every ghetto living with that already now, is your problem with kids being near it or the thought of your kids being near it?

What do you think should happen to children of prostitutes, are you planning on adopting them?]

That has to be one of the most asinine quotes I have ever heard

 

I love it when you enter a conversation. It is like having a high schooler who thinks they know everything and spout off so much nonsense. Do you really expect people to walk you through everything?

You should probably kill all children of prostitutes right? Won't that solve everything too?

BTW, rules and laws are good for a society. However, if people actually treated each other with love and respect we really wouldn't need many laws now would we? (you don't actually have to try and answer that question, if you can't figure it out, then you should do some thinking.)

 

oh whatever are actually trying make a point or just blabbing?

Walk be thru what? that lorien obvious believes he somehow is better then other people, and those people should be locked up out of his sight?

lol, yeah ok

treating people with love and respect? like locking them up in jails and prisions away from their families for victimless crimes

 

Incorrect. I choose to live by the laws of our land. Accordingly, I do not walk into a mall and start shooting people. Therefore, I am better than someone who does.

I do not walk into a convenience store and stab someone, therefore, I am better than someone who does.

I do not molest children, therefore I am better than someone who does.

The list can go on and on and on. Those that abide by common sense rules and strive to help others, do the right thing and create a better world are better than those who seek to destroy it, seek to exclude themselves from accountability and those that choose not to follow the rules.

A good man does the right thing even when no one is looking.

Anarchists generally want to be able to do what they want, with no consequences for their actions, at any given moment in time. They are selfish in that they believe the world revolves around them and take no responsibility for their actions. The laziest of the lazy.

 

Lack of accountability. I know that if I get caught with drugs, there is a consequence. Therefore I do not use, own, carry, distribute or seek anything to do with illegal drugs. Accordingly, I am not behind bars. What a concept!

If someone were truly concerned about being in jail and away from their family, then they should not delve into activities which will put them there. It's really that simple. They have a choice, they make the choice. Let them take responsibility for their actions.

 

we are not talking about violent crimes, dummy

we are talking about drugs and prostitution