Buying text links - Are google serious about their 'crack down'? I think not

Discussion in 'Google' started by Notting, Apr 29, 2007.

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    There has been a large issue recently with google suggesting that they will be 'cracking down' on bought and sold text links in the near future.

    There has been healthy debate regarding the practicalities of 'cracking down' on selling text links, philosophy - is it 'bad' to buy backlinks? and potential 'evil' reasons for Google doing this.

    However I want to suggest that perhaps google should not be sending such a mixed message to webmasters.

    By this I am refering to the hypocrisy of them making vast sums of money from allowing firms selling text links to generate them revenue.

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bu...avclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGFB_enGB215GB216

    By doing this they are in fact proliferating the problem massively.

    If google are serious about 'cracking down' on the selling of text links they should put their money where their mouth is and stop profiting from the selling of text links themselves! They generate profit from adsense by allowing these firms to purchase google adwords to advertise their sites.

    Notting
     
    Notting, Apr 29, 2007 IP
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  2. GOW

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    I agree, Google is filled with hypocrisy. Also, they should stop scaring people about the link buying penalty, how the fu-k are they going to detect this, if they can't detect spam blogs. They are overrating there search engine, and people are falling for it.
     
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    The whole idea of Google was "ranking based on back links". If they leave it what else they have?

    By the way, in the past few years they have dramatically reduced the effect of backlinks on their ranking. They also put the main effect on relative backlinks.

    I believe the easist way is to hide the page rank so the business of selling links goes to problems automatically.

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  4. xenyo

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    The problem with Google dealing with paid links via their algos is that if they turn up the juice and leave small loop holes. Those loop holes will become so powerful.

    By adding more filters and damping to their algo .. it means that the required linkage power to attain high positions will decrease, as if it works, paid linkage power and links that seem like paid linkage power will be less.

    When this happens, it is inevitable that the more adventurous SEOs will find certain loopholes pass the algo and those SEOs because of the decline in competition will really benefit.

    So, maybe in a years time, we wont be buying text links ... but maybe we'll be buying well linked content pages or something.

    Seems to me like jumping from the cauldron into the fire.
     
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  5. heinlein99

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    Yup. When any situation containing fluctuations arises, you can bet there'll be clever people around to take advantage. This time, I hope I'm one of 'em.
     
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  6. BigBadWolf

    BigBadWolf Well-Known Member

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    Nicely pointed out, I mean they do block gambling and pharmacy keywords, If they where really serious I guess they could block these keywords too ;)
     
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    tradeya Notable Member

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    yeah just cut off words buy/sell links from google search engine database. there will be less buy/sell links business. also tell people that buy/sell likns will not affect PR definitely nobosy will do or care about it. :p
     
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    IT seems like I'm the only one happy about the crackdown...I can't afford to purchase links like the big sites with huge marketing budgets...the crackdown will help level the playing field...
     
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  9. Notting

    Notting Notable Member

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    On the contrary seoranter. My comments were not regarding the policy per se, just the way that Google are being a bit useless in the way the communicate their policy and the policy is jumbled.
     
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  10. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    Notting,

    Googles issue is not selling text links, thats not the issue. Its selling text links to manipulate SERP's and PR.

    If you buy a text link from google its wrapped in javascript and you cannot see the linking url.

    If you buy links from a company its a hard coded link placed into the page. This link does effect SERPS and PR and this is what google does not want.

    Pierce
     
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  11. Notting

    Notting Notable Member

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    So I'll repeat what I just said Pierce.

    My comments are not regarding the content of their policy but the poor way it is being communicated and the general lack of thought that has caused it to potentially become a new 'grey area' for webmasters.
     
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  12. korzon

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    I think they will have to come up with another way of getting rid of spam such as augmenting their algos with user feedback. It is against Google's best interests to lower a good website's ranking because it purchases text links, no matter the reason for the purchased links. Google needs to provide more relevant search results, and hurting those who are trying to improve their rankings will not improve the quality of the SERPs because it will hurt relevant websites as much as it will hurt non-relevant ones.
     
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    With this policy--google is going for the DOOM when webmasters will have no alternative but to SPAM blogs and social bookmarking sites with their URLs and Craps contents.

    Just imagine the day --when your blog gets 3000 Uniques per day and get 2500 comments --how many do you edit?

    Webmasters who own many sites will find little time to create contents for social bookmarking sites for all their sites and if they hire content writes the profit margin will fall drammatically.
     
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  14. mikey1090

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    people wanna sell links for traffic, not just PR.....so why should google interfere so much. google will be like a government, not just a search engine....so many powers...
     
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  15. Pierce

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    because you have people like v7n and payper post who are making lucrative business models from shortfalls of computer algorithms.

    Google wants the serp to be "natural", why should the person at number one be some heartless company that can spend $100,000 on back links in a heartbeat just to out do other smaller sites that have a better personalized touch.

    Pierce
     
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    I think we should tell google to go take a walk and think.
     
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    Sounds like "squacking" to me.

    But, if so, are they going to penalize paid inclusion to the biggest directory?
     
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  18. The Stealthy One

    The Stealthy One Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    I think they are very serious about it, and I am glad to see it. :)
     
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    i totally 100% agree with you on this one.
     
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  20. trichnosis

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    google is recieving comments and ideas about this. it did not take action yet. i hope it's better to wait and see what will be future?:)
     
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