Woman in Escort Case Plans to Name Names in Defense

There is no reason to make chewing gum illegal is there?

Yep. check out the STD rate among amsterdam prostitutes or even prostitutes in vegas or wherever its legal and see if you believe this. Don't be naive.

 

I guess I helped to hijack my own thread

Anyway, let's cut to the chase. I wonder if there is anyone on the client list that might get this woman dissapeared?

 

Really? Who do you suppose pays to lock them up?

 

And what is the reason to make marijuana illegal? Why are people locked up because they smoke? It's because there are powerful people who want to control the way we live. That's why prostitution is illegal. You say because it's harmful, but then why is it I can smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol? They are more dangerous.

It is hypocrisy and the only way you can defend your argument is to confuse the truth I have to say.

 

dude lorien is clueless, he thinks the moment someone gets high they run out and get a welfare

for some reason he thinks its ok to spend billions on law enforment and prisons but if the same amount would be spent on welfare or social programs it would be wrong

Lorien tells us

if drugs where legal, and any extra health costs, welfare costs etc cost the same or less as the law enforement, court costs and prision costs, would you be for legalized drugs?

 

Yep. That's why. It has nothing to do with the fact that if you do drugs, you are more likely to commit a crime, lose your job, and become a burden on everyone else. It's all about control.

In a world where we are trying to essentially get rid of cigarettes because they kill people; its amazing that people want to legalize marijuana even though it is as harmful to the body.

http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo/evidence-select/cannabishealth.htm

I do? Enlighten me as to where I said that?

I already said what would have to happen for me to be in favor of legalization. It is only a page or so back, Ferret. Surely your attention span will allow you to find that post. I don't even think it's a whole lot to ask, do you?

 

They actually legalized that in many places, just so you know. Pretty sure it's legal here in FL.

No, they shouldn't have to make special wording for it. They shouldn't make it illegal in the first place. Yes, I'm sure there is an increased risk of STD, but I am guessing that the healthcare costs associated with it are probably less than those associated with accidents on construction sites, and the solution is the same in both cases: have the employer have some sort of insurance. The other things you mentioned, such as illegal drug use, etc, will stem from the fact that there is a ton of money to be made in it, not the fact that it is prostitution. It's the same for any high income profession.

Now, all of that aside, lorien1973 was right from the very first post... as far as this thread goes, whether or not it is illegal is completely irrelevant. It is currently illegal, she is on trial, and she is giving her clients a free second screwing. Period.

-Michael

 

This business has always been the main financing source for political parties, believe it or not.
Now the gossip colummists have their days. I can even see thousands of websites poping up in the attempt to have a Paris Hilton like figure in the States.

It's all a game.

The issue from Clinton was quite more serious than that.

 

I do not think that Randall L. Tobias is anything like Paris, c'mon. She's much cuter imo.





-Michael

 

Sure you thought of her and not Randall. Well she's isn't that cute either. She looks more like a brothel mama, but she's got the monies.

 

I know. I was simply making the point that if you drive a motorcycle without a helmet (and its against the law), you can't really complain that you get a ticket. I agree with the repeal of the helmet laws. That was just a quick example I could come up with

A primary difference, here, is that STDs can be given to other people. If you break a leg or something on a construction site, that affects you and you alone. If a hooker gets an STD, it affects the hooker, her client(s), and anyone that client has sex with later. It has a far further chain reaction. Are all these people going to file back to the original hooker's insurance?

Again. I'd look into drug use for vegas hookers (legal, I think, right?) and elsewhere where its legal. I'd bet that addiction rates are very high and the drugs used aren't pot, but more likely heroin, cocaine, etc.

 

She's also got, great... big... tracts of land!

I think legal in Nevada, but illegal in Vegas proper, actually. Either way...

My point was that you would be surprised at the addiction rates in other high income jobs as well. Yes, you might find a slightly higher rate with prostitution, since someone can get addicted and then become a prostitute to support it... but with legalization that would probably become less common.

I'm not just talking about legalization though, I am talking about regulating as well. If you were to license not only the prostitute, but require the client to pass certain requirements (clean bill of health, I mean, not a proficiency exam), then the amount of people who actually contract those diseases would drop dramatically. The overall costs would go down.

There's mandatory insurance for driving a car. The could require the same for this. Brothels could have little limited insurance forms at the door, like they have at airports.

-Michael

 

Actually you said you would favor some legalization if it didn't cost you anything

I am asking if you would favor it, if it cost the same as enforcement now

what is your point? I bet the addiction rates of waiters is pretty high too

Have you ever known any sober waiters?

 

Hehe. If you become inflammed 6-8 months after your initial visit (and as long as you haven't used your unit since), come back for a free checkup. Now that's a good plan

Also, take into account that the customers are not tested for STDs. Given that they visit prostitutes, I'd bet they have a higher likelihood of disease as well and encouraging more risky behavior is not very intelligent - from a general health perspective.

I'm not sure about that so much. Let's say some chick becomes a prostitute at 18 or 19. Gets a disease and can't perform a few years later. She probably doesn't have an education, probably addicted to drugs. This is gonna turn out well for her in the long run? Probably not.

Ah. See, now, that explains some CSI episodes where the cop dude is harrassing the prostitutes. I thought it was legal in Vegas too.

I was sober when I did it. Is that enough? I'm not sure if I agree with your premise that all waiters are strung out on drugs after their work day is over.

 

kind of like the premise that all prostitutes are junkies?

 

Did I say that? I believe they are probably more likely to be on drugs and engage in other crimes.

 

But that's exactly what I was talking about here:

Wanna get laid? Fine, gotta get some blood work pulled first.

Besides, we both know that the reasons for it being illegal have nothing to do with risks. All of those arguments are justifications after the fact, not actual reasons. It is someone else trying to impose their morals on us, that's it. You don't see anyone trying to pass laws making slutism illegal... yet I would venture a guess that there are over 10 times more sluts than prostitutes out there. Hell, I'm one (in theory, anyways). Same risks, same costs to healthcare.

The rest? Well, it's just logistics. If you get over the moral hump*, the particulars can easily be worked out. Trust me.

-Michael

*That pun was not intended when I wrote that.

 

The fact that so many of the people charged with upholding laws decided to break them when they wanted to smoke weed etc., tells you how much of a farce the WODs is.

 

are saying prostution should be illegal because prostitutes often do drugs?

should we make rock muscians illegal also?

 

Please follow the thread ferret. I know you need to distill thoughts into quips so you can comprehend complex topics; but is more than drugs, it is more than crime, it is more than the negative health effects for prostitutes and the customers. It's a combination of everything. Please try to follow along.