Read that quote. Why would he have to be careful about his flight being late? Apparently Pacifica Radio broke that Condoleeza Rice delivered the telephone call, but I can't find a source. I will continue looking for it. Feel free to have at the rest of the questions I have though. I've got plenty more.
Please do, I'll look foward to it That's nice. I sure hope they aren't the same tired ones I've already answered time and time again.
If they are truly questions that you want real answers for; I'll let you find them. If you are simply saying you have "questions" to hide your trutherism; then there is no point, is there? I sense its the latter. Just by the template wording of your initial post, just accept your trutherism and that no fact with dissuade you. I've already debunked point #1 without any serious rebuttal from you (the lame "I'll continue to look for it" is old and tired and is usually a sign of defeat from truthers - other truthers here use it all the time, but miraculously never find anything). Either your trutherism is in its infancy or you aren't even sure of it. Tell me what you are: a no-planer (no planes hit anything)? wtc7 guy? pentagon guy? general BDS? General anti-americanism? Which is it?
I am sure this one is coincidence. Does anyone else think so? http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has\
Question 2. Happy? Everytime I try to get an intelligent conversation going here, someone argues my motives (irrelevant to answering the actual question) or semantics. Why is it so hard to answer if you feel I am right or wrong? Why confuse this issue at all with sidebar nonsense? You didn't debunk anything. Note, the airport was not aware of a security advisory, and yet Brown received a personal call? Did you not read my original post to this thread? The one you questioned? I made it pretty clear. Please don't try to pigeon-hole me into some tidy group you have already written off. If you have answers, provide them. If not, let's find them together. If you must find me a narrow definition to exist within, perhaps I am a contrarian.
That is interesting. I've no doubt that some knew an attack was about to happen. The shorts placed on airline stocks in the days preceding 911 were huge, and someone made millions of dollars on them. I also read that at least one huge airline short has never been "redeemed".
That's why you read the whole story: Again, you claim that Rice called him. Yet you have no proof of this. And I don't suspect you'll ever offer it either. Is this the question you expect me to answer? Why does the US maintain a relationship with SA? I figured it'd be obvious. We like to recruit terrorists there, of course. can you be serious for a moment? So you don't actually question any of the facts of 9/11, just random tidbits of information you've read someplace? Is this what you are trying to explain to me?
Indeed I did. No security advisories had been received in recent days. Did I claim it? Please re-read. 15 of 19 of the terrorists in 9/11 were Saudi citizens. As of 1997, the CIA had not drawn up a National Intelligence Estimate (threat assessment) for Saudia Arabia and still may not have one today. I'm making the claim that there is a lot of domestic negligence that has gone unchecked.
That's not too relevant, though is it? Weren't they trained in Afghanistan? Isn't that -far- more important than where they were born? Let me correct that. You are parroting an unsourced claim. It's pretty much the same thing, isn't it? There were terror threats issued for Asia and the pacific rim around this same time as well. Ask Willie why he was called and who did it. I don't know, or more importantly, care who called him. The fact remains is that he did not take the threat seriously and was waiting for a ride to the airport when the planes attacked. He was ready to get on a plane. So, the illuminati did not reach him. And you know its unchecked how? You've already made 2 easily debunkable claims in your initial post that show your lack of information on the subject. So forgive me if I take your "questions" lightly. The ones you've asked so far are either "who cares" "who knows" and do not really amount to anything at all. The bin laden family is a huge construction group in the middle east. Who do you expect to have a hand in rebuilding? Bob's plumbers down the road? It's a lot like complaining halliburton has Iraq contracts - they built the pipelines, makes sense they are the ones to fix them again. It's an empty argument. The bin laden family disowned bin laden long ago and has no contact with him. So the relation there is no more than a nice conspiracy.
Were they trained in Afghanistan? Has it ever been confirmed where these individuals were trained specifically, or that they ever even visited Afghanistan? No it's not. I admitted I had no source and would endeavour to find one. If you don't know, or care, why did you select that point to rebutt? I'm admitting ignorance on the subject. I'm asking for someone to enlighten me, not run me through the mill on a mission to debunk and pigeonhole. You're basically saying you don't think the questions are valid or worthwhile, and yet you continue to argue them with me. Now I am really So you are saying it is just a coincidence? Source? Perhaps we can get away from attacking my credibility and establishing (or not) the veracity of the questions I am asking.
This is why I'm not taking you seriously: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/01/hijackers.video/index.html A coincidence that the bin laden family owns a construction company and has a wacked out relative who wants to blow shit up? No, it seems pretty common for the religion to have some relatives who are militant. Uncommonly normal, dont you think?
I'm having trouble taking you seriously now. That's 2 hijackers, not 15 and unless I missed it, only one of them is a Saudi citizen. While we are on this topic, don't you think it might make sense to investigate how all these guys from Al Queda have Saudi citizenship? You would think that George's buddies in Riyadh would be happy to co-operate in bringing down Al Queda and revoking citizenship of known Al Queda members..
I apologize that al qaeda did not fully document conversations for video for you. Next time, I'll put out a memo that all terrorists need to be videotaped before killing themselves, okay? You were trying to make a point that the hijackers didn't visit afghanistan, I provide proof otherwise. It's typical to claim that its not enough evidence. You ask, I provide what's available. Contact OBL if you need further proof. Given that most SA citizens are probably supportive of terrorism, no I don't think they'd be happy to. Much like pakistan, they are helpful when convenient, which is as good as its gonna get. SA also has their own al qaida problem. It probably does not help them if they make it worse by outing people. Get me?
guerilla, would you be crying if we had attacked Saudi? Even though the terrorists were recruited to and trained in Afghanistan? It seems like the message you are conveying is that Afghanistan, where al qaida (those responsible for and admitting to the 9/11 crimes), should not have been attacked. In which case, the Taliban would still be ruling the country and oppressing women in the harshest ways. In fact, Saudi has made numerous arrests, foiled numerous plots and have been the victims of al qaida terrorism as well. Are you admitting that you are so uninformed as to not be aware of these things?
I didn't try to make a point. I asked if we had confirmation that the hijackers were all trained in Afghanistan. It's important to discriminate between questions and assertions. Btw, your apology in good faith is accepted. I'd like to stay friends. The differences between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are huge. One is unbelievably wealthy, the other is in no state to police itself for the international community. I would think that revoking citizenship of people who are terrorizing your country would make it harder for them to get around. If I'm a citizen, and I have papers, surely I can enter and leave the country much easier than someone who does not. After all, they revoked Bin Ladens citizenship, why would they let his worker bees come and go?