Every Muslim Terrorist Should Be Brought To Justice

Depends on the person viewing it. michael mooron would be making up stories and piecing together anything I have said to make it sound like something I didn't and dan rather would try to disprove my 2 month long military service. (ya, I know... stomach problems..)

I didn't think that you were very liberal from some of the things you have posted, although I may be mistaking you for someone else.

 

I am, and you may have, or I may have just not come across that way. I'm generally opposed to sheep like behavior irregardless of what the persons affiliation is, be it blind faith to our government, or the total belief that just because someone is anti-republican it means they should be (or I would want them to be) on my side.

I probably picked the wrong example for my question, btw. What if Hilary Clinton were to come out and publicly announce that you and her were bestest buddies? Or if some terrorist fan club started up a debunked fan website in a non-sarcastic way, and were talking about how much they liked you?

-Michael

 

what about non muslims?

 

Hardly..

In less than 2 years there will be a new president. GWB will be gone, off on speaking tours, charity functions, working on his library, etc.. He will have no more affect on American politics in the future than Bill Clinton currently does.

Terrorists tend to take power and hold it. They don't give it up. They certainly are not elected.

So you are saying the majority of the American public "should be brought to justice" because you do not like Bush? Are you ok? Ease up on the shrooms dude!

 

If Hilary were to say I was her best buddy to some it may be good and to some bad. I personally wouldn't want to be considered part of her group of friends, I wouldn't want to be found dead with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the back of the head.

I would definitely dread having a terrorist group saying they liked me.

But don't worry about seoguru making liberals look bad (if it were possible he-heh..) I think he is part of the fringes of lunatics that do support liberal causes, but I don't consider him the norm.

From what I have seen of your posts, you tend to think more and look at issues from your point of view, but you don't normally come across as a free-for-all liberal who thinks all things should be free for all and government should pay for it type. (a little exaggerating some liberals)

 

Could you stop saying that stuff Nabil. I am serious, The first few posts were a boost but then again the terrorism has begun on this thread.

 

Well I would like to say a few words to those FEW Stupid Pakistanis. ******************************* AND ******* AND ***** Too

All of MY friends don't think such stupid things that we hate Christians etc.
In fact our favorite movies, heroes, bands and singers from the west!

 

Good thread. Bring all terrorist to jail.

 

In case you are confused as most muslims seem to be on this forum - THE WEST IS NOT ALL CHRISTIANS - especially hollywood - you know where the movies are made.... they are NOT Christians, very few claim to be Christians in Hollywood. (I am getting tired of typing this.) Again, as a reminder, a person can NOT be born a Christian, you have to personally accept Christ to be one.

Bands and singers that most know about from the USA are also NOT Christians, again some may be but most are not by their own words.

Also, I will repeat, a persons name even if it is considered a 'Christian name' does not make them a Christian. Almost everyone in the USA is given what is called a 'Christian name' at birth, but to most Americans the name is just an English name since we speak English over here.

 

I'd like to see statistics on that one actually. Very few might be bible thumping gospel singing in the street waving hands in the air variety, but I would guess (and this is offhand guessing, like I said I would like to see stats) that the majority are in fact Christian.

Again, would like to see stats. That's still a major over-generalization.

Not true. I mean, yes, technically you cannot be born one, but you are at baptism, and that's not really a choice. Not the ones performed on babies anyways. And yes, I know not everyone gets baptized, I was merely pointing out that what you said isn't always true.

Also, if by "personally accept" to mean "make the choice to accept", and if you factor in those who are forced to go to Catholic school and might get brainwashed there, then no, that would mean there are other ways to become a Christian as well.

BTW - quick disclaimer here... I am not anti Christian, anti God, or even anti Church for that matter. I'm not even anti Catholic school... I didn't go, but know people who did, and was basing my statement on some of what I picked up from them. Hell, I'm not even anti brainwashing.

-Michael

 

Why should I stop it ? Why shouldn't I call terrorists who killed thousands of Muslims with their real name ? Are you worried about how some hypocrites think of Islam ? I'll say it again :



George bush and his administration and all armies that occupy Afghanistan and Iraq are terrorists ! they killed thousands of innocent civilian Muslims and committed inhumane massacres !

 

I am sorry, I wasn't talking about being catholics, yes probably many in the USA are Catholic even by baptism as small children. I sometimes wonder were all of these catholic religious ceremonies are in the Bible. Oh that's right, they aren't.

But I see your point. Even the mafia was catholic, that way they can go be forgiven by a man for killing someone.LOL

Just to clarify, if you couldn't tell, I am not catholic and don't follow catholicism. Many catholics I believe are "born again" Christian, but the catholic church does not represent "born again believers"

I probably just muddied the waters by stirring things up..........

 

Only on TV man

 

Actually, I only mentioned Catholics in relation the free will vs forced schooling by parents. Catholic schooling is just so well known (probably the uniforms) that most people are at least familiar with the cliches.

Many Christian denominations believe in baptism. Yours probably does as well (assuming your are Christian, I do realize you didn't actually state that you are). My bad, it was probably my mention of Catholic school that muddied it.

What I was mainly disputing (in that part of my post) was your mention of:

that's not logistically true. Regardless of whatever rite of passage it is that makes it "official", people are generally born into their religion, period. Their beliefs (and yes, yours too), if not directly caused by, are to say the very least majorly influenced by, what they are taught, and that usually stems from parenting.

-Michael

 

Are you talking about your buds? muslim terrorists killing innocent muslims in Iraq? Or is that acceptable to you? The killing in Iraq taking place is muslim terrorists killing other muslims. Wherever the quran goes, blood flows.

They are too coward to fight in uniform, hide behind women and children and kill their own because some nutjob cleric promised sexually frustrated men with low self-esteems virgins in the afterworld in exchange for blowing themself and innocent people up. In other words, their own selfish desire to molest little girls is driving them to kill their own. Surely allah would not be pleased.

 

Heads up sherlock, I support you.

 

Commenting on other religion first to see what his/her religion told.This is first mistake you did man.Any Religion won't tell commenting to another religion. Come to point terrorism is means wat?Killing innocent peoples. Tell me in iraq, afghan.How many innocent peoples are killed.Who killed?.Country which is attacked on Iraq, afghan.so, tell me who is terrorist?

 

Pretty much I have to say I have no clue what you are saying, or who you were saying it to. Only thing I could really understand there is what you think terrorism is: Killing innocent peoples.

That's actually an incorrect definition. Yes, in modern day terrorism that does happen, but that happens in regular war as well. And in traffic accidents, cancer patients, when the Titanic sank, etc.

Terrorism is the systematic use of terror for political gain. It has to do with instilling fear as a motivator, often times aimed at civilians as leverage against their government. It is different form wartime invasion, as that relies on brute force.

-Michael

 

Baptism is also a choice for Christians. Being baptized can not make anyone a Christian as much as going to church can. I can sit in a garage for the rest of my life and even drink oil and I still won't be a car.

I really don't understand Catholicism, since so much of what that religion does is not even from the Bible or it stems from other beliefs from when Catholicism came to be. Look at Rome during the time of its birth and you may see where their rituals come from.

There is no rite of passage to becoming a Christian. You can't beat yourself, wash yourself or do enough good to become one.

 

Perhaps a better explanation of your POV would be that being a Christian is not a ritual, it is a way of living.

Although Jesus did set a precedent when he had John reluctantly baptize him, because "It is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." mt 3:15