Google Algorithims and domain names...

Recently I have been testing and I am finding that simply registering the domain name as the phrase you want to rank for can get a lot of traffic...

Of course this is only for low competition phrases but has anyone else tried this?

Basically I am still learning SEO and to be honest I really know nothing about it, is what I have found out valid our is this just getting 'flukey'...

Josiah

 

Can you share what phrases have you tested and how long you have been testing them? How many tests?

 

a page rank zero domain name that is the searched phrase is not going to outrank a page rank 5 site on the same topic

 

and how old now from time youv'e registered a domain with that particular phase?

 

Ive noticed this too.

as an example (seo I had worked on a while back but no relation to site owner now ..)

360 visual keywords. domain www.(DOT)360-visual(DOT)com

31 Million in Competition and #1

 

How much you want to bet on this Wozz? Im serious, lay your money on the table and i'll show you 100s of examples, both my sites and others. Im PR0 and beating wikipedia, gov and edu pages that are higher then PR5

 

Yes although this is true, it will stop very quickly if it doesn't sustain return visitors. See what Google does here is they give you a "chance" to rank, so that they can collect data on browsing habbits for this "new site". I guarantee you the party will not last very long, 3 months tops.

Of course, that's in the case you rely only on the domain name and content keywords to rank. If your site is really useful and people's browsing / linking habbits show a good site, it will stay around.

 

Yes got keywords on name do help a lot on SEOs. (so bad my name got no keywords on it....)

 

Good comments guys...

And I would have to agree with sweetfunny, PR is important but it doesn't mean low page ranks cant beat high ones

Josiah

 

Ok, here's one of mine: Establishes.org

For the search term Establishes i'm #4 out of 41.2 Million results.

I got to #1 in seven days after putting the site up for a 41.2 Million result term. Granted not many people actually "optimize" for the keyword, but i didn't either.

All these pages have the search term appear on their page the same if not more then i do with PR8's etc pages and mine is zero. I have virtually have no backlinks, and none with the search term used as anchor text.

I done "very" basic SEO, almost primitive.

Bam... beating authority sites like whitehouse.gov, Wikipedia, Energy.gov, UN.gov, IRS.gov, ED.gov, ICANN.org

I've been "fluxing" between #1 and #9 for i'd say 2 months now and i have done nothing else in this time. Granted, if i keep doing nothing there's a good chance the domain will start to slide over time, but i could keep it there with minimal effort.

The only thing i've really got over them is the keyword domain. I done some real good tests on this in 02/03 and the concept is still pretty sound.

Since people were asking for examples of the domain name effect with high results, i thought i'd throw one of many i've done on the table.

BTW it's up for sale

 

Hello, yes 100% it helps

My 2 cents,
Jakomo

 

Yes, that is definitely true - I have used that technique to help many of my SEO clients!

 

OMG sweetfunny that is insane!

But does this mean it's only applicable to exact phrases of the domain or can it vary?

Josiah

 

Who said that PR0 can still outrank site that has PR5 as long as the site was optimized well.

 

It actually can - in the short term they will give you "Google Juice" so that they can gather information about people's browsing habbits on your site. Everytime I register a new domain containing a keyword - as soon as it gets indexed it shows up really high on SERP. However this is for a very short amount of time. Bottom line is the site has to provide service that brings people back.

I'm telling you Google's SERP is now being adjusted to how long people spend reading your landing page / other pages on your site. This is a bigger factor now, especially when link buying is being manipulated more and more by SEO.

I have proof of that. I had a site that had a search functionality - just one form on the main page. as soon as I made the results page a different site, the SERP position went down. (may be few weeks to a month time but still) I still have the same number of unique visitors though. Just not as many page views / time spent on my domain.

 

You are spot on, it gets termed FSB or Fresh Site Boost.

If you have an excellent site from the beginning, during the FSB you will start to gather natural links and tend to hold your rank. I think it's a great method to give new sites a chance as apposed to starting on page 1,234 and having to claw your way up.

"I'm telling you Google's SERP is now being adjusted to how long people spend reading your landing page"

I also agree 110% except it's not new. Egol, myself and a few others discussed this back in 03/04 sometime on Seochat. I done a bit of a test and got results of it's validity. I got 2 spare fresh domains, optimized them for a jibberish term (similar to the Nigritude Ultramarine comp if anyone remembers).

The pages were identical, and i give them the same single backlink. Now the test...

A few times a day, i searched their keyword. One website i would click on in Googles results, then hit the back button within 5 seconds. Then i scroll to the other domain, click it's Google result and stay on the page for quite some time.

I also used proxies alot to simulate different visitors, and guess what? The domain i clicked and stayed on ranked #1 and the other ended up in the #20s for the term. If i remember correctly there were about 37 results from this rather obscure term.

Granted i would have to do this experiment a number of times to say 100%, however the results were convincing enough to me not to warrant it.

These didn't use Adsense, but i believe this is used to gather data about page navigation habits/times etc. But that's another test, and another day.

 

Pretty much yes but it can vary depending on things like on-page SEO and the search phrases competition. But the more page strength the more it will stem in to other various phrases with the domain keyword present in the search phrase.