My $5000/mo Goal With ClickBank & Arbitrage

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by scottmweaver, Jan 13, 2007.

  1. Nikolas

    Nikolas Well-Known Member

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    #321
    I think people from countries with no paypal do those 2checkout - paypal trades in the marketplace (here at DP)

    But I can't really say as I live in Greece where Paypal exists :)
     
    Nikolas, Apr 12, 2007 IP
  2. scottmweaver

    scottmweaver Peon

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    #322
    Hmm.. I haven't had the best experience with 2Checkout, but that's just me. :)

    If it works in someone's country, more power to them!
     
    scottmweaver, Apr 12, 2007 IP
  3. wounded1987

    wounded1987 Well-Known Member

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    #323
    why he needs paypal for AdSense? hmmm?
    they will only send him by check....
    but yeah paypal is a hell of a good way to transfer money and fast
     
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  4. RussReynolds

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    #324
    Maybe the paypal is to pay for hosting?
     
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  5. wounded1987

    wounded1987 Well-Known Member

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    #325
    there is a free hosting services, for example http://1111mb.com
    http://9999mb.com
    and http://5gbfree.com
    he doesn't need to pay for anything. just grab a co.nr domain name and a free hosting service, i think he can connect them wit DNS...but if he can spend a 4$ hosting account and domain with 2$ then go to http://godaddy.com they can accept credit cards
    it will be good a .com or .org domain name if u are planning to a stable website then yeah .com would be better then some crappy co.nr domain.
    your choice.
    P.S i would make a word press blog if i were you, it will be hosted in wordpress...
     
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  6. scottmweaver

    scottmweaver Peon

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    #326
    Actually, me telling him to get PayPal had nothing to do with AdSense. PayPal is just an easy way of sending/receiving money for things. AdSense building is an animal all its own.

    You can get cheap hosting, yes .. but you get what you pay for. :p

    It's better to spend $9/mo with someone like hostgator and get a bunch of stuff, as well as great hosting.

    And unless you are making proxies or something like that, it's always better to go with .com if at all possible. :)
     
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  7. digitalc

    digitalc Peon

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    #327
    Clickbank has 60 days refund policy. After your ads cost, 60 days later, how much profit generally can make to promote clickbank products using PPC?
     
    digitalc, Apr 13, 2007 IP
  8. scottmweaver

    scottmweaver Peon

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    #328
    That all depends on your refund rate. I've had a total of 3 (perhaps 4) refunds the entire time. I know someone who makes $1k+ in sales each day with ClickBank and gets a lot more, but I think it's a linear relationship in sales-to-refunds. It also depends on the product; some products are crap and have a high refund rate. Also-- some products are crap and have a really low refund rate. Why? Not sure. It's something you kind of have to test to find out for yourself, I think. :)
     
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  9. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #329
    I dont really beliave in that method clicks into direct sales, though ive naver really tried it with a large advertising amout.

    Anyway good luck, post some notes. :)
     
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  10. LazyD

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    #330
    Just wanted to say im jumping on the Adwords/Clickbank bandwagon...

    Currently im promoting an offer in the Home & Family area...Turns out the offer pays around $9 a sale

    I havent seen any sales yet, seems like theres not a whole lot of search traffic for the keywords. Thankfully there is really no compeition and im paying $0.10 a click for top 5 position results.

    I think my biggest problem is the product im trying to push, but it fits very well with one of my sites..

    Also, quick question, when you login, and it says Welcome: (your name ehre)

    The (your name here) is the name you use for your hoplinks correct?
     
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  11. Telmari

    Telmari Active Member

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    #331
    IMHO, you should find a better product. Unless you know you can convert this one at an astonishing rate, you're probably better off picking something that pays more. Say for instance you convert around average (1/30-45 clicks or so)... if your clicks cost 10 cents each, you're routinely just breaking even. Even if you converted at 1/10 (very very unlikely), you'd still only be making 3.50/sale ???

    I think you'd be much better off selling a product that pays you 50-75% of 35$/more. Otherwise, you're kind of leaving money on the table, providing you're willing to do the work to make a successful campaign one way or another.

    -T
     
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  12. LazyD

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    #332
    Certainly, im much more willing to put long hours in then I am to dumping money into somethign that will be unsuccessful. I guess I get jaded easily because I see many offers that look like they have huge numbers of people promoting them.

    Im not that impressed with my landing page building abilities and often chicken out before I started a campaign - That, or I get a campaign going and see that im paying $.50+ a click and only let it go for like 20 clicks then dlete it and get scared because I dont have money to blow...
     
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  13. Telmari

    Telmari Active Member

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    #333
    Ahh - well, I wouldn't let the amount of people promoting a product negatively affect your view of chance of success! You can't allow emotions to become a player in this game - your business decisions must be based hard and fast on logic (assuming it's an amoral decision, of course...).

    Huge numbers of people promoting could easily be a great thing for you. They say the average buyer consults 5-7 sources before making a purchase. Maybe 5-7 other people advertising/promoting on your PPC keywords are getting the buyer primed to buy, so that when they hit your page, they've done their research and are ready to check out with you.

    Meh! Internet marketing is not for the timid :) Realize that some of the WORST looking landing pages have the BEST conversions! Not always, of course, but you don't need 2 years of webpage & graphic design experience to quickly throw together something that will sell.

    While I do have graphic design & HTML experience, I threw together a simple landing page for one of my campaigns a while back that took maybe 2-3 hours to do (and wouldn't taken too much longer for someone who knew only the simplest HTML) and produce the graphics for, and another 5-10 hours to set up/monitor PPC campaigns & costs, and the result is a campaign that's already brought in 1000$ or so.

    20 Clicks certainly isn't enough to make a decision on a campaigns success. I have days where I convert 1:15, and I have days where I convert 0:60. Even with a sweet landing page, opt-ins, and bonuses, the internet is sometimes just plain weird. While you can definitely minimize your costs by reducing your bids, looking for niche keywords, doing good research and such of course, if you're really looking to go the PPC route, you're not going to avoid spending some money.

    The trick is to make a good landing page, have a few people review it, set up an ad campaign that's super targeted towards your audience, monitor your PPC costs, and let it run for a bit. Don't let it exceed the costs of one sale of the product, but don't give up just because you've had 50 clicks and haven't sold yet. If you really don't have 5...10..20$ to spend, there's a lot of advice here on using Blogs, Articles, and more for totally free advertising. That may just well be the best way to create a landing page that sells, since you don't spend any money for the traffic.

    I think it's easy to get discouraged at times when you put a lot of work into something to see 0 sales and money down the drain, but like I said before, you have to make it a business decision. Think logically about the situation, assuming it is possible to make a sale on the product, even if you haven't done it yet. Don't allow yourself to become like "Oh no! I'm spending all this money and not seeing any sales". Instead, think "I'm spending money because I've done research to indicate buyers clicking on x ads are interested in my y product, which should bring in z $ for a profit. If my system does not work with an ample test, I will learn as much as I can, revise, and try again until I am successful."

    I know how you feel, been there, done that, still do it. Just gotta keep pressin' on, and success will come.

    -T
     
    Telmari, Apr 17, 2007 IP
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    #334
    Thanks everybody I have learned a lot from reading this thread.
     
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    #335
    Telmari, thank you very much for just layin it out like that. I do have a question about one thing though...

    Ive been told before that in certain situations in PPC that you want to get the visitor to the merchants page as quick as possible, especially when they have their own landing page.

    ClickBank publishers tend to always have landing pages, most are pretty long and in depth... Is this a case where I would want to get the visitor to their page as quick as possible, or do I want to create my own landing page, then redirect them to their landing page? It seems like its too much information and may turn a visitor off...
     
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    #336
    You might want to have your own landing page and redirect to the clickbank CHECK OUT page and not to the publisher's sales page :) Why bore your visitors with two sales pages - yours and publisher's ?
     
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    #337
    Because its against Clickbanks TOS to bypass the publishers landing page... I already asked
     
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    Conkster Well-Known Member

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    #338
    This thread is awesome! I've been successful with AdWords/ClickBank and this has inspired me to get back into it. :)

    I think it's all good if you get permission from the publisher.
     
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    typ Peon

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    #339
    This post has been an inspiration. Before 2 days ago, I knew nothing of clickbank... or affiliate marketing for that matter. After reading the pages and pages of thoughts and ideas I threw some of my own stuff together. Well, on day 1 I recorded a $6 sale. Immediately I thought awesome, it's working. Day 2 (today) I've recorded another sale for $27. I've spent $5-6 in advertising, so that's roughly $25+ in profits after only 2 days. It's a great feeling, addicting no doubt. Just wanted to tip my hat to all who have been kind enough to give their input.
     
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  20. Nikolas

    Nikolas Well-Known Member

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    typ: That's interesting. You are the first person I know who made a sale in day 1 :)

    Can you tell us how you did it?
     
    Nikolas, Apr 27, 2007 IP