New Iraqi Government - A puppet of the US government?

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  1. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #21
    An Iraqi government whom we installed. Wow, how convenient!!!

    By the way, I agree with you 100%, didn't you see what I posted:

    Oh right, that definition does not apply to the US. We are the good guys, the civilized ones. The savage ones are the muslims.
    We don't torture people. We simply make them feel uncorfomtable.
    We don't occupy other countries. We simply free their people.
    We don't terrorize people. We simply use precision guided 2000lb bombs on their cities and towns.
    We don't kill civilians. They are collateral damage.

    The terrorists are the ones whom we choose to call terrorists.
    Occupation is when we call it occupation. Syria was "occupying" Lebanon. Israel is NOT occupying Palestinian lands. We are NOT occupying Iraq.
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #22
    Damn dude I really worry about your sanity sometimes GTech. :confused:
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #23
    Incorrect. The purple fingers on page one confirm that is incorrect. It's a shame you would disrespect your muslim brothers and sisters who braved the possibility of getting killed for voting, by suggesting otherwise. What other ways would you sell out your muslim brothers and sisters for the sake of falsely accusing your own (term used loosely) country? Meanwhile, they brave the danger of voting and you sit all cushy in safety afforded you by others.

    Yep, I saw your fabrications. Did you want to make them an issue too?
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #24
    Worry about your delusional disorder. After all, you sold your country out by giving Iran's credit to everyone but Iran. I put no stock in what traitors have to say.
     
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  5. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #25
    They did NOT vote for Nouri Al Malaki. This shows as ignorant you are. Nouri Al Malaki was specifically chosen by the US to replace Ibrahim Al Jafari whom the US disliked.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #26
    You sure about that? Read, then let me know who is ignorant.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouri_al-Maliki
    Again, you should be ashamed of discrediting your brothers and sisters in Iraq for braving a vote that very well could have got them killed. They are a lot braver than you are, while occupying other's lands here in the US and criticizing them.
     
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  7. ablaye

    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Yes I am sure about that. The US disliked Ibrahim Al Jafari and orchestrated his removal and replacement by Nouri Al Malaki. Do a search and you'll find thousands of articles about this even from your beloved FOX news.

    You are indeed a very ignorant person. You don't know sh*t. You just repeat sound bites.

    About this comment : "Israel was Israel long before Islam was invented."
    Sorry to tell you that your jewish buddies left Palestine thousands of years ago. Most of them settle in Europe and have been living there for hundreds of years. Consequently, they have no claim to the land of Palestine.
    The land of Palestine belongs to its indigenous population (which includes arabs and jews who were born and lived there) before it became a western colony known as Israel.
     
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  8. exponent

    exponent Peon

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    #28
    If the Iraqi government were truely a puppet government, there wouldnt be an Anti-American cleric. (Muqtada al-Sadr)
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #29
    Facts show otherwise. Consider yourself owned, again.

    Can't pull one off on ol' GTech, eh? :D

    Incorrect. Palestine is derived from Palestina, a name given by the Romans. Israel was Israel long before islam was invented. Look it up in your quran. It talks about Jews of Israel. There is no palestine. It was the name given to Israel upon a conquest.

    Arabs are still occupying parts of Israel. muslims are occupying most of what we know today as the middle east. Wars of conquest to spread the religion.

    Is it equally as offensive for someone to say "get the infidels (or words to such affect) out of muslim lands as it is to say "get the muslims" out of infidel lands? Something to think about.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #30
    I don't care where the word Palestine originated from. It is "Phillistine" in arabic.
    I don't deny that Jews were living there. But most of them migrated to Europe and settled there. Therefore, they have no claim to that land anymore.
    Can you imagine what would happen to the current world if population who have migrated from areas thousands of years ago could just return and claim the lands where they originated from and expelled their current inhabitants???
    Let's start with the US. Should the native americans kick us all out because it was their lands. They have a stronger claim than the jews. We only settle in their land for the last 500 years.

    Muslims are NOT occupying the middle east. Islam originated from the Middle East as most monotheist religions did. The Arabs were the occupants of the Middle East when Islam was revealed. The turks, the persians, the chinese, the malay, the indians, the africans later embraced Islam through conquest or trade.
    Most religions were spread by conquest.

    And by the way, muslims throughout history have never performed ethnic cleansing. There were jews living among muslim arabs for hundreds of years and they were treated far better than their european counterparts. Whatever you religion may be, you can safely live in muslim lands as long as you abide by their laws.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #31
    Migrated, eh? Yes, just up and said "gee, the Ottoman's are here, let's just up and migrate."

    I can imagine the world will no longer tolerate islam's wars and occupations to spread it's religion. Though your buds are getting pretty much a free pass in Darfur.

    They are occupying the lands. Through islam, entire nations were conquered, raped, pillaged; men were brutally killed, women forcefully raped to have kids, all in the name of islam. This is what true islam is about.

    No entity has more experience in occupying other's lands than islam. Period. History makes this clear.

    Back on topic, the US is in Iraq at the request of the Iraqi Government. A governement that wants to succeed for it's people. Unlike terrorists...muslims killing other muslims on a daily basis. There are some muslims in Iraq who have moral authority. It is not those trying to destabilize the country. The one's who silently get a pass for killing other muslims on a daily basis, while outrage is tossed about at the US (your country, at that) about "occupation."

    There's plenty to whom you can point a finger in Iraq. But you only chose to do so with your country, in the name of your religion. That's pretty low...
     
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    #32
    You obviously haven't checked GTechs profile and read any of his other posts then mate. :D
     
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    #33
    Most but not all, thus, the ones that did not migrate still have a right to live there.
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #34
    I am not sure where you get your history from. The Ottoman did not kick out the jews nor evict them. When the romans invaded Jerusalem (and yes they were christians), they killed a bunch of people and evicted ALL jews. It is only after Jerusalem was liberated by a Muslim (yes muslim) ruler that the jews were allowed to return. The jews were allowed to practice their religion and keep their temples when the muslims fought off the romans.
    Yes, that is all true. If you do some research, you'll find all that.
    The Ottoman did not (I repeat not) cause the jews to flee. But the way, the turks even saved jews during the holocaust.
    Most jews who went to Europe migrated there by choice.
    Your facts are twisted. Muslims never raped, pillaged and raped people. Most people converted to Islam through their interaction with Muslims. West Africa became Muslim through trading with arabs.
    You know sh*t of history. Your rabbi is feeding you crap and hate.

    The US is not there at the "request" of the Iraqi Gov. That is such a lie. The US invaded and stayed there and the Iraqi Gov did not have a say. It is rumored that one of the reasons that Ibrahim Al Jafari was booted out is because he wanted the US to leave Iraq.
    The current Iraqi Gov can not ask the US to leave because they know their security depends on the US. They are just a puppet.
    There were several polls where the majority of Iraqi wanted the US to leave.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-04-28-poll-cover_x.htm
     
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    ablaye Well-Known Member

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    #35
    I do agree with that. Jews that were living in Palestine do have a RIGHT to live there.
    American, Russian and other european Jews do NOT have a right to claim the land as their own. They are respectively American, Russian, etc.. They have lived in those places for several centuries. They have blond hair and blue eyes. How can you tell me that they have the right to claim the palestinian lands and throw them out???
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #36
    Obviously not the hate literature from your mosque.

    Incorrect. They are there at the request of *your* country, even though you'd prefer harline terrorists to take over Iraq while you enjoy the security of afforded you by others. In fact so much so, the Iraqi governnment has asked the US not to pull out, despite democrats calls for immediate defeat.
     
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    #37
    go back and look at my first post....post #3...then tell me the govt. is a puppet of the US...
     
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    #38
    About Darfur, let me clear some misconceptions. It is a black-on-black issue. The so-called "arabs" in Darfur are light-skinned blacks whose native language is arabic and who call themselves "arab". They are not middle-eastern. I call them self-hating blacks.
    The light-skinned blacks (or "arabs" as they preferred to be called) are fighting and killing the darker blacks (who the media refer to "africans"). These darker blacks (they are called Fur people) are being discriminated by the light-skinned northerners. The light-skinned northerners feel that they are "superior" to their darker western and southern countrymen.
    Both "arabs" and "african" people in Darfur are muslims. And this problem has NOTHING to do with religion or Islam.

    In the rwandan genocide, it was the hutus killing the tutsis and both groups were christians. I don't recall christianity being mentioned when talking about that genocide.

    Again, the media is currently in "muslim-bashing" mode.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #39
    muslims are killing muslims because there are so few Christians left. It's as islamic as it gets.

    Darfur - Islam's Killing Fields

    I do. Quite often.

    Incorrect. The media here in the US go to great lengths to mask the evil of islam. That really works to your advantage. It's non MSM agencies who have the guts to cover these things.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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