When did America become a nation of frightened wimps?

So all the people you (or an organization appointed by you) deem "unacceptable" would then be sent to the termination camps? This way the gene pool would flourish and mankind would evolve into a much superior race?


Am I following along so far?

 

d16man, i dont think people are saying to cower from the terrorists. I think we need to look in our backyard before we look into others. There are way too many people that accept info from high up as FACT and never question it.
I think im the only one on this site who felt a little perturbed about the fact that i have to wait until the year 2029 to find out all the info on my ex presidents assasination. This is very disturbing to me, isnt it also disturbing to you guys? I find this amazingly perplexing

 

pingpong, forgive me, but what are you talking about?
(not trying to be funny, I really don't know what you're talking about)

Your president was killed and they wont tell you by who until 2029? Where do you live?

 

He lives in the United States of America and is talking about John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

 

Pretty much - except there are no termination camps. As I stated before, sterilization will be used - not termination (except for serial killers, rapists, child molesters, pedophiles...). You seem to jump the gun and instantly assume Eugenics is about killing off a group of people - but when you nullify a person's ability to produce progeny, how exactly is that killing them? It isn't - and it won't kill them. What instead you do is that insure that their genetic makeup is not passed on - and thus the probability for their side of errors will not exist in the future (decrease in rapists/serial killers/what have you). Sociopaths are half taught and half born in my opinion - and thus by nullifying a sociopath's ability to bear and raise a child you remove BOTH elements.

The only argument against it is "Well what if there child would be normal?" and then my question back would be "Well I guess we will never know - because he/she won't have one - therefore there is no termination of life, and there is no abortion." I am sure I will hear an argument about "Procreational rights" - so does that mean a rapist has the right to forcibly impose his will upon his victim? I highly doubt that - and since it would be a post-conviction (with DNA linkage to the crime) operation there would be no reason to allow the rapist the right to procreate. Same goes for the pedophile/child molester and the same goes for the serial killer.

I focus on the criminal elements as by far being the most qualified candidates for chemical or surgical nullification that goes along with their sentences.

Now when it comes to people not convicted - I am thinking of the men who go around getting everyone pregnant and then skipping town, without paying for support. Then to the women who have so many children they can't support them or raise them - and yet continue to have more (and this includes the ones who throw away their infants into dumpsters). Elimination of this element from society will prevent its furtherance and make things more efficient under my government's rule. Standards of living will rise as less people are born into the subsets and slums of society that self propagate through irresponsible actions of perfectly capable adults who must have some behavioral or genetic makeup to cause their outlandish activities.

 

You seem to be the one that jumped the gun and assumed that termination meant termination of life. The camps that I refer to termination of some factor, like termination of propagation, freedom, livelihood etc. You force your will on someone removing some factor from someone else's life you are terminating something they had and that you took away.

Now continue with your vision of utopia.

 

So - you would rather a rapist be allowed to keep his procreation ability to further harm? Pedophiles too? Mass murderers?

 

This is your ideals....nothing to do with me. Now if you really think that there is either termination of the undesirables or they will take over like a bad virus, then you need your head examined. It is just not the way it is, not even close.

 

I am afraid the idiots already have taken over. *points at Washington DC*

Nevertheless I view this criminal element of society as one that causes a loss in profitability and an excess cost. Elimination of them - at the very least - is good for the economy.

 

Interesting point.

Lets now imagine a utopia society where we could get rid of the lower tier cross section of society. Lets say the lower 1/2 of 1% must be terminated. Now lets say we set a bar for people to strive for to keep their social status (read life). Lets now call that bar their ability to create an income. This would quickly remove the undesirables you have outlined.

With this system we would accomplish two major objectives:
1. Weed out the trash
2. Keep the slaves on a treadmill of production.

Wondering if you have ever read Animal Farm?

So how do we implement this superior society?
1.

 

Simple.

No more humans in government. Gradually they are phased out, politicians are of no more use. I'll use what I will hopefully have available at that time to wield power. The government will be sleek, fast, no bureaucratic pitfalls from corruptible humans, and absolutely no thinking machines - and the only eliminations, or life endings, will be to those who are the Killers, the Murderers, the Pedophiles and Rapists, those who feed off the harm of others... they are all that need go. The others who sloth and do nothing but be a burden will simply not pass on the burden with their children. Eventually humans do less work, have more time for education, and the market has less of a government hand in it.

In exchange for more social freedoms and safety, there is less political freedom. The final goal would be a highly educated earth that maintains a population of roughly 6-7 billion, that doesn't over-strain the environment, that doesn't ruin the entire planet's ability to function, and has FLYING CARS.

Or at least electric highways. Emissions will be corralled into such a small amount - yet industry will not be effected. Power plants will no longer rely on coal, oil, or gas, yet they will still produce as much power as is needed - and then some. The entire planet's electrical grid will be overhauled for efficiency and so will the cars we use and the roads we drive on. Corporations and websites will make more money than ever since computers and technology will be the focus of the world's new administration. People will be safer, people will make and keep more of their assets through life, and people will be smarter than ever. Cultures and religions such as those of Islam, Christianity, Buddhist's, Jews, and what have you will be respected, however intolerances will not be. Finally, with these improvements and mass employment for the poor through the upgrades to our world, and because I would be in total power - therefore negating many market principals through the means of "Because I said So" - starvation deaths would fall to near zero, successful births in developing nations would increase - while the term developing would become 'developed.' There would be no more genocide, homicide, infanticide, matricide, or (what have you)acide.

Yes this is an ideal, and yes I believe there is a chance in a billion it could happen, but if it did happen the world would no longer be a self deprecating whore who kills itself over petty issues manufactured by man for man. It would be the world promised a generation ago - where you could raise your children without fear of someone kidnapping them, killing them, hurting them. Where you could take a walk and not have to carry a gun. Where you could live, and be alive without fear. Diseases are cured, knowledge reigns supreme, and teachers are paid what they are worth. Business and trade is unrestricted, and there will be plenty of business and trade to go around. Production of all the new technology will ensure that unemployment levels will remain below 9% - with half of that being people between jobs, not permanently out of work. The other would be new job seekers and those who might need some training for new skills.

Also - Electricity would be one of the major demands in this future - highly trained personnel for line installments and the massive world-wide grid upgrades would be needed. Finally, and foremost, destruction of the ecology that keeps us alive as a species would end, and life expectancies would rise beyond what our wildest dreams could envision.

People will be able to enjoy the simple things in life again, less stress, no fear mongering, no war mongering, no political debates on all the news channels with bloated heads turning red as their capillaries burst in rage... Green Bay Packers will still have Favre...

That is my Utopia.

 

Jackuul Empire under control of Jackuul.

Premises for Assumption: Everything Can Be Controlled. This is the FALLACY.

Even the strong, CREAM DE LA CREAM, may not fit in. Become unreasonable and this would lead to change and collapse of the EMPIRE.

Better LEAVE to Chaos and Randomness mixed with NATURAL SELECTION.

 

I won't rely on humans. No need to worry about their frailties or their easily mislead ways.

 

LY2 yes i was referring to JFK, and if u start reading up on him u will see that our government has locked away vital info from the american people and we cant see this info until the year 2029. Can anyone tell me why people arent ticked off about this? I live in the usa by the way.

 

They are not pissed off because nobody is sitting in front of them on television telling them they should be pissed off about it.

 

Why do you thing it's locked up? Today's TRUTH may not be valid TOMORROW.

 

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Education is the number one step! It is the only difference I can point out from Germany or Japan. Where most people are very different and better in many ways than most Americans.