ATTEN: Might want to stop putting your URLS in the threads!!!

I think I'll need to re-read the OP, but which site will this effect?

The person buying the link, or the seller?

Is my site going to be punished because I didn't go with AdSence, or is your site going to get penalized because you didn't go with AdWords? Both maybe...and if not, it's certainly the next logical step.

I can see them playing with numbers, but not officially keeping this thing going.

 

Honestly, they don't like webmasters period. By webmaster I mean anyone that works on getting their site to rank better than it did naturally, not webmasters that just create content and let it sit. It's no secret Google hates us, the only people who say otherwise are selling "SEO services" and depend on this lie staying under the radar.

Edit:

Please tell everyone where you got the false information that google never cared before? They have openly loathed the exact methods since, well since forever. You finding out about it today doesn't make it new.

 

There is already 2 thread started on the subject :

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=298934
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=298967

 

Google, is acting tough for some freaking reason SES london was a blessing, ay?

ok ok ok lets be reasonable..

ok google, we will stop selling links, just close your adsense/adwords.
fair enough?

 

great input, but imho it doesn't make sense unless these paid links affects the revenue adword is getting. let's move on and bury this one

 

Sorry, I only found the one in the link sales forum and I did do a search before posting. It fits here as well. Edit: And the first one you posted isn't even the same topic.

They don't care what you do on your site, only that it doesn't affect rankings in their search engine. Your argument is a straw one.

 

Google feels like controlling everything we do. If they say we musn't sell links it's like we have to do obey the rule or face the penalties (ban from google). I don't like that.

Ill never stop buying/selling text links anyway. They best way to do SEO.

 

I very well know where google stands, and how the hell it got there, its obviously over reacting here at the moment.

Actually,now i WANT google to go for it,let yahoo pickup the PR race.
This will just endup with more then 50% of the sites already indexed at google to be banned or whatever.

 

One could argue that it won't be for long.

The PR race won't make more people use the search engines, it will just give "SEO's" a new pitch to sell people with.

 

Isnt that the whole point? PR? Traffic? Backlink status?

Why else do people buy links?

 

What false information? I asked a series of questions... You are confusing questions and statements again.

And your rely to me was "hot off the presses"?



Personally, I did not post in this thread as if I was spreading the latest story around. I was asking questions and stating opinions. If you are to take offense to this, or think that I'm in over my head, I'm sorry. Though, honestly, I've no idea what you are on about...
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I have no idea why im even arguing here.

this is never gonna happen in the first place.case closed.

every webmaster here knows this is total b.s
thats enough.

 

I'm not mad at all. I'm just trying to figure out where the idea that Google doesn't care about this came from since it's one most everybody shares.

 

This could easily be abused by peoples competitors.
What if I made a post saying:

Hi, I'm selling text links on my very high pr7 site www.blah.com for $XX per month"

Then the person could actually report their own thread and damage their competitor. Or is that too far fetched of an idea?

 

I'm just guessing here but I imagine Google will devalue paid links. This means a PR10 link selling links won't pass any of it to you, not that you will be banned. You just won't get the SEO benefit from paid links. There is no way to harm a competitor that way.

 

I have already considered that, even in that case this idea blows because it makes a high PR site, worthless.
therefore, making a PR (the whole concept), worthless

 

The entire concept of PR for Google is to give more weight to sites that have content people are actually looking for. PR comes from backlinks (a vote of confidence for that sites relevance on a topic) and has no negative effect on natural sites. Stopping someone from selling PR links is hardly a nail in the coffin for any site worth a darn, only to those whose entire business model is buying links to get PR so they can in return sell links for PR. People buy ads on MySpace for the traffic, not to boost their rank.

While most disagree for personal reasons (they sell or buy links) it is a common sense approach to running a search engine if you want relevant material at the top.

To put it in perspective, how would you feel if a millionaire started selling a crappy version of your product. Knowing their product sucks they decide to buy every possible link online shooting them above you in rankings. Being greedy millionaires that they are they start 10 other sites and repeat the process, overtaking the entire front page of Google for all related search terms. Would you care then that the system was gamed by the person with more resources and an inferior product?

 

Eh, already know that too..
id still say this is a bad idea...i know the whole "not belonging on a certain pr" idea, but that is why there are people with money, but then again i dont think google is interested in that anymore either..

IF this does happen, we will have to rely on good ol' fashion traffic.
Not like we cant find ways to go around this little piece of shit rule that google is about to implement, heh.

 

Well, it has already happened behind the scenes. There are known paid links that have been devalued forever, it just looks like Google is improving their system to find even more.

I don't really feel like digging further but this is from 2004.

http://www.namepros.com/222055-post8.html

It's nothing new, just not as behind the scenes as it was before.

 

Is Google differentiating between 'paid link' and 'ad' and if so, what exactly is that difference?

How is a paid link any different then Adsence & Adwords?

If a site is good enough to virally spread itself there there would be no need to 'get the word out' by any other means. If a product is good, it should sell itself, or rely on the natural linking process. But is this what Google is actually doing? Is Google trying to actually eliminate alternate ad campaigns or are they trying to actually help...

I can tell the difference between a footer link and a forum post, but I certainly can't tell which one of the other members here sold their sig...