Opinion on xxx domain extension

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by Smyrl, Aug 17, 2005.

  1. #1
    What are your thoughts of the xxx domain extension? I just received an e-mail from a consservative group wanting me to write ICANN stating I do not want porn on Internet and that I strongly opposed establishing a triple X domain.

    My feelings are what difference between xxx.xxx and xxx.com or any other extension? Am I missing something? The porn URLs I have received in spam are explicit the extension seems irrelevant.


    Shannon
     
    Smyrl, Aug 17, 2005 IP
  2. Willy

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    Well, suffice to say that only Americans could have come up with the need for this extension (no offence intended, I'm sure you know what I mean). "Protect the children".... :eek:

    But, if it is indeed let loose on the 'Net despite the current controversy, it's sure to trigger the largest domain gold rush seen for many years. That could be interesting. Perhaps sex.xxx will be as fought over as sex.com has been over the years :D
     
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  3. JoeO

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    I thought anti porn people would support this. It will be so simple to filter out these domains from being viewed by children.
    It's not like this extension is finally an in for the porn industry to start going online! :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    No offense taken.

    The children see and know more than us in many areas. I had to ask my nephew what something off color meant. I tried my peers and they played dumb.

    I could see something positive in it if it would free up a bunch of domains suitable for run of the mill sites but ... Maybe the rational is just to make more suitable domain names available to porn industry.

    Let me say, "I am NOT in the porn business." but the e-mail seemed very weird to me.

    Shannon

    Well if I had a good porn name dot com I would go for same name dot xxx so filtering would not work.

    Shannon
     
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  5. JoeO

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    Don't get me wrong, I am by no means saying it will stop kids from viewing porn. Because obviously millions of porn sites will never use these domains, especially at $60... And when I say filtered I mean it will make less people accidentally see these sites, not so much that it is going to stop kids from seeing porn because that will never happen.

    What I am trying to say is that I do not see the introduction of this tld as a benefit to the porn industry, and defiantly not something to bother petitioning to stop.
     
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  6. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Well I did not rush out and sign petition.

    Shannon
     
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    Kaabi Well-Known Member

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    Pornography is not a problem. I don't know why people are fighting that instead of fighting cancer or AIDS or terrorism of for the environment or for stem cells. We should really be focusing on that instead of stupid porn.
     
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    i think this domain should be banned because it will premote porn more because with the help of domain it will be very easy to find porn sites
     
    programmer, Aug 19, 2005 IP
  9. Willy

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    And it isn't very easy to find 'em right now? :confused:
     
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    I don't think finding the porn is a problem

    Smyrl - I don't really get the point of their petition. A domain name in no way encourages it since you can have that kind of material with any tld. I'm all for doing anything (including signing petitions) that protects children (although they seem to want porn made illegal) but I don't see the correlation here.

    They should really be spending their time building awareness to other issues and not worry about a tld that has no signifigance whatsoever
     
    yfs1, Aug 19, 2005 IP
  11. SEbasic

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    Hahahaha!!!!!!!

    That is *such* a joke.....

    Personally I quite like the idea behind the extention - I just can't *believe* there is this much fuss about it.

    What are the Administration gonna do - set up "Team America - Porn Police" and arrest everyone that runs porn sites :rolleyes:

    Come on - the Bush administration is just soooooooo over the top on this one... So much legislation these days - 2257 is just complete overkill - now this...

    http://www.threadwatch.org/node/3489

    It's all very silly IMO.
     
    SEbasic, Aug 19, 2005 IP
  12. Design Agent

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    If someone registers .xxx and they get less traffic, then they will switch back to .com

    It seems 100% pointless to me, other than generating income and extra available names - which in turn will increase the amount lawyers earn dealing with squatters when people start registering google.xxx etc.

    I think they should rearrange it all ;) .com - should be 100% international, .us - should be the standard US extension.
     
    Design Agent, Aug 19, 2005 IP
  13. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Thanks for the responses. Your thoughts are along the lines of mine. I just thought there might be some major aspect I was missing.

    Shannon
     
    Smyrl, Aug 19, 2005 IP
  14. alph

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    I think xxx is a waste of time, no porn site is going to use it *because* it's so easy to filter. They'd be stupid!
     
    alph, Aug 19, 2005 IP
  15. Wai_Wai

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    Hi.
    I may be a bit offtopic. Anyway here my 2 cents go.
    Even assuming it is good to add a domain to specify adult content, I still disagree with the use of *.xxx

    (1) Unclear meaning of the word "xxx"
    What does *.xxx really mean? Probably it means to be something bad or very bad (so there're 3 crosses - xxx. No! No! No! Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!).

    Think twice. Bad things are NOT the equivalents of adult contents. Many things can be considered bad but are not related to porngraphy.
    *.xxx is somewhat a misnomer.

    (2) Bad impressions on innocent websites which use "xxx" or its similar
    Another problem is it poses bad impression on the word 'xxx'. Some websites use as part of thier names unfortunately. This will give people wrong impressions that their websites contain adult contents.

    If 'xxx' is supposed to be bad, how about 'xx', or 'xxxx' and so on? Are they considered bad as well?

    Two 'x'
    http://www.google.com.hk/search?num=20&hl=zh-TW&c2coff=1&scoring=d&q=inurl:xx&btnG=搜尋&meta=

    Innocent Three 'x'
    These sites come at the first page of Google
    http://xxx.lanl.gov/ (a government which supplies porns?)
    http://www.xxx.co.at/intro/index.php (another company which deliveries adult contents?)

    Four 'x'
    http://www.google.com.hk/search?num=20&hl=zh-TW&c2coff=1&scoring=d&q=inurl:xxxx&btnG=搜尋&meta=


    (3) Efforts required for newcomers to learn the meaning of "xxx"
    We need to learn what 'xxx' is.
    When a computing newbie looks at the word 'xxx', the name itself gives him no good clue what it is about. If he wishes to find an answer, he probably has to read some articles before figuring it out what 'xxx' mean when it comes to Top-Level domains.

    I'm a person who likes to make things clear and obvious, and reduce the chance of confusion/misunderstanding. Why not use better alternatives?

    (4) Proposal of Replacement of *.xxx
    I propose the replacement of *.xxx with these top-level domains:
    .adu
    .adult
    .porn
    .porngraphy

    If you ask me, *.porn is the best. Porn is the short form of porngraphy. *.porn is the most obvious & neat (comparing with *.porngraphy) . When I search for the word "porn" in Google, I couldn't find any innocent websites at the first few pages.
    http://www.google.com.hk/search?sourceid=mozclient&scoring=d&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=inurl:porn

    The word 'porn' accurately and clearly convey its very own meaning to every reader. No acquisiton/learning is required. No confusion. No mis-labelling.
     
    Wai_Wai, Sep 20, 2005 IP
  16. Wai_Wai

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    As to the point where *.porn (*.xxx itself may cause problems, as said previously) should be allowed. I think it doesn't matter. I may simply allow it.

    Actually why do we need to restrict the top-level domain(TLD) so much? Would it be great if there are much more TLD for us to choose from?

    The ideas of my whole frame (rough and subject to modifications) are as follows:
    www.{site-description}.{site-category}.{site-location/lanugage}

    The first part is the description of your site.
    The second part is how the site is classified.
    The third part is to tell where your website is located or targeted.

    You are feel free to put any description you like.
    But you may be restricted to what category & location you put according to the content of your website, your audience targets (language) etc. The registrar or governemnt may be responsible for that.

    Eg of some URLs:
    - hxxp://www.hardware-review.comp.cn (a website for hardware reviews in computer category in Chinese)
    - hxxp://www.jacky.home.fr (A site which introduces the webmaster jacky in a personal homepage category in France)

    There are several advantages:
    - the URL becomes more structured (so people can understand what the website is about simply by reading the URL)
    - it helps people to search the web easily
    - it helps the search engine robots to do the sorting and categorise them accurately
    - it promotes creation and diversity (don't you feel it is bored to type *.com all the time)
    - In my system, it solves the "domain name" conflicts for different types of businesses using the same brand names & in different locations! When someone simply types, say, "brand-A" in the address bar. A category list will be shown, listing all URLs (with descriptions).
    - In my system, it also solves the competition of "generic name" domains (eg freebie, cartoon). Normally "first comes, first serves" is a bad idea. It would be great if these words are reserved. Only quality websites can claim for these names, or simply no one can claim these names. When you type this name, simply all relevant websites will be listed.

    My wishful thinking or just crazy 2 cents :p
     
    Wai_Wai, Sep 20, 2005 IP
  17. Kaabi

    Kaabi Well-Known Member

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    I thought the same thing, ha ha.
     
    Kaabi, Oct 4, 2006 IP
  18. NoobieDoobieDo

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    I love porn and I think the XXX domain is a good idea.

    It makes it 100% clear that the said domain contains adult material - makes it easier on everyone.
     
    NoobieDoobieDo, Oct 4, 2006 IP
  19. disgust

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    agree completely. I'm all for protecting kids, especially younger kids, from accidentally seeing porn. there are already ways to do this.

    however, regardless of what you do, there's virtually no way you're going to be able to stop horny teenagers from finding porn if they have a computer and internet access. it's going to happen.

    I really find half of the stuff that people try to push for "to protect the children" as absolutely absurd.
     
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  20. Nida G

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    my comments about this is that... no need of this extention...this will more space to porn makers etc....so I will support it..
     
    Nida G, Oct 4, 2006 IP