I've never said anything even remotely close to what you are dishonestly suggesting. It's a good ploy though, because if done right, you can put someone on the defensive about something they've never said and turn the tables around. Be careful with the victim card. Twice now you've rushed to use it based on untruthful data that you have simply assumed. I might also remind you that the US came to help muslims there. But that doesn't matter to you, does it? I might also point out the islamic killing fields in Darfur. What have you done to prevent your "brothers" from committing genocide against the Christians there? These sorts of things work both ways.
The Hadith is very different from the NT...As I understand it the Hadith is not the inspired word of God, however, for Christians, the NT is a part of the Bible, which IS the inspired word of God...And none of the parts were actually written by any of the disciples...many were written long after Jesus and they had died...they only have names attributed to them (as we know of). That is totally incorrect....Jews are God's chosen people, not Christians...and I don't know of one Christian in my denomination that think Jews are not going to heaven without believing in Jesus...would that hold true for Jews that lived before Jesus was on earth, that never had the change to know him? The problem with meeting halfway is denying that Jesus and God are the same....Jesus is not just some joe schmo prophet who likes to have multiple wives and pronounce death to anyone who doesn't believe....although that could not be said for muhammed.
Because the moderates don't stand up. Remember the biggest rally organized by a Muslim community drew 50 protester and that were Jews and Christian. That happened in Washngton DC. Moderate Muslims are errorists and the rest terrorists(terrible errorists). If the moderates claim that their religion getting hijacked then why don't the protest about this issue either?
yeah but how does calling moderates who have no desire to terrorize anyone, terrorists going to help them to come to your side if I say "christians are child molesters" does that make you want to reason with me or does it just make you think I am ass?
Not read the full thread because contrary to OP message, thread is full of bashes and arguments. What so ever, its the ignorance of the people who bash here, asking which muslim had the Nobel Prize or what. Orhan Pamuk, Turkey, got the Nobel Prize in literature just this year. If you research or read about something, you would not have to be asking here about something that is in the hot news. For good of the muslim world, I can say that the country i live in, is a secular, laic country ruled by laws not connected to religion. A vast percentage of televisions used in Europe, textile merchandise, %80 of the jean fabric is produced here. First biggest complex of laptop production and r&d in Europe is built here. Oil lines from Kerkuk (Iraq) to Ceyhan, and Baku - Tblisi - Ceyhan carries oil of Middle East to Europe safely through here. And yeah we had a woman prime minister with light brown hair that is uncovered?, Hagia Sophia (formerly used as church, mosque - now a mixture of cultures and religions serving as a museum is a candidate of monuments of world and is a solid standing example of how cultures live here peacefully), we are the only big muslim country who are friends with Israel and Jews. We hold a foundation of 500 Years Peace with Jews, since we save them from Spain slaughter first in 1400s. There is an election for president in a few days, and %70 of the people living here is against a strong candidate because his wife has covered hair and he has hidden non-secular beliefs in governing our country. For 20 years we are struggling with terrorist that are located in North Iraq and more than 30.000 soldiers and civils are dead in the territory since than. And we are still yet to start any war, while Americans destroyed Iraq for invisible mass destruction weapons and Israel destroyed Lebanon for Hizbullah. This is becoming a self-promotion here, if you were just really interested in finding out more, you would read something, not ask here. I do think that your intention is not in good will. And yes, i do protest everything. I do not like Iran or Syria much than USA or UK. If some one is doing bad things to humanity, i protest him. Just we need to wear out glasses that show everything form the line to west is free, good, to east is bad, evil and terrorist.
doesn't compare in any way shape or form. That would only work if the Bible said to molest children, it was taught to molest children and practiced by those who followed what was taught. (But then you are trying really, really, really hard to find moral equivalence.) So, ya I would go with the later.
You might want to explain that one, since you obviously know so much about the Bible. Oh, and this relates to child molestation how? Or is everything child molestation to you?
Fat chance on that one.. I've asked ferret repeatedly to cite Chapter/Verse when making references to the "Bible". So have others here. He never answers. I doubt he ever will. Perhaps it is Ferret's way of justifying Gworld's behavior or his own.
Actually I think I have supplied chapter/whenever asked, everytime in fact please show a link where I have not Exodus 21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. 21:8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
Any modern day examples to back those verses up? Oh, wait, you have to know all Christians first before you are aware of them, don't you? That's your rule, isn't it? Can you not find anything from the New Testament? No scriptures from the quran? I wonder why? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=110161
Interesting contrast to modern slavery where we just take the people we want. Here a father can choose to give his daughter into slavery if he wants. There are different types of slavery. Some forms allow the slave to go free after a certain number of years. The Bible's stance on the practice is neutral. No where does it command you to participate in the practice. It only gives you laws should you choose to participate in slavery. The shock at finding slavery in the Bible comes from the demonization of slavery. This may surprise you but not every slave was mistreated. Some were actually treated very well. And that's how they're supposed to be treated. People in the south are none too happy with the stereotypical view of a slave master. Believe it or not a lot of slave masters were good people that treated their slaves very well.
The old testament is part of christianity havn't you ever been church? Jeez you guys are so full of it, ask any practicing christian if the old testament is relevant and part of their religion, ask a priest Jews and christians both follow the old testament. Thats why people were trying to put the ten commandments in court houses, becasue they are meaningless to christians ....