Google Directory next update?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by LeopardAt1, Mar 20, 2007.

  1. #1
    Anyone know how often Google downloads the new RDF dump by the odp?

    It seems like they haven't updated it in a while...
     
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  2. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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  3. LeopardAt1

    LeopardAt1 Well-Known Member

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    Hey, I checked out that site.

    According to that site, the last google directory update was in December of 2005. That estimation may be useless?
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    Estimation is pretty hard to make for such long term updates, however that's a value list about the case. As far as i know that last update thing is correct, not sure though.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    That whole page is pretty much useless. But I would point out that it's not really describing updates of the Google Directory in terms of DMOZ data dumps - only about the PageRank updates in the Google Directory.

    Google doesn't seem to worry a whole lot about keeping it's DMOZ feeds updated but it doesn't mean the last one was December 2005.
     
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    3plains Well-Known Member

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    So how would the seocompany know the google directory update is going to be happening soon?
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    He doesn't. That page doesn't predict anything. All it does is catalog previous updates and extrapolate. It's pretty much useless.

    Just grandstanding and bafflegab.
     
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    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    i have one site listed by dmoz . when i search on google directory , i can find it but it's not listed on directory pages
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Google doesn't update very often, if at all, any more.
     
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    #10
    Thats not quite true. They have not updated the sites in the Google Directory for a year or so now. But they do update the Directory search from DMOZ regularly (most recently as a few weeks ago), so a search for a site in the Google Directory will show the category. But if the site has been added to DMOZ with the last year or so, when you go to the category its not listed.


    I have no idea why they are updated the Directory search function and not the Directory categories.
     
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  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    You seem to be confused. The original question was why does his site show up in a DMOZ search (via Google or not) but not in the Google Directory?

    The correct answer is the one I gave: "Google doesn't update very often, if at all, any more."

    To add to that, the weight of evidence indicates that Google really doesn't give a crap about DMOZ or the Google Directory but if you insist on doing a search they'll oblige you with a redirect.
     
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  12. martty

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    Nope. Reread my post and then follow this eg:

    http://www.ultra150s.com/ (not my site, but one of 1000's of possible egs) was recently listed in DMOZ in this category:
    http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Boating/Power_Boating/Personal_Watercraft/Personal_Pages/

    Now go to the Google Directory search and search for ultra150:
    http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Ultra150+&btnG=Search+Directory&hl=en&cat=gwd/Top

    According to the search results, the site is in this Directory category:
    http://www.google.com/Top/Recreation/Boating/Power_Boating/Personal_Watercraft/Personal_Pages/
    but its not when you click on the category link.

    Any site added to DMOZ in the last or so 12 months are showing in the Directory search but not listed in the Directory category that the search results show.

    ie Google are updating the Directory search function from DMOZ rdf dump, but are not updating the categories from the DMOZ rdf dump.

    Where am I confused?
     
    martty, Apr 11, 2007 IP
  13. LeopardAt1

    LeopardAt1 Well-Known Member

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    Good observation martty.

    Didn't now that. I figured if the category page was not updated then theres no way the search update can be more updated.
     
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    #14
    Google are obviously downloading the DMOZ rdf dump for something, just not updating the Directory categories. We can only speculate why. My speculation is that they are doing it to use the DMOZ description in the SERPS.
     
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    So are you saying they might never update the category pages. I do hope they update eventually.
     
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    Email them... or maybe even use the directory there, maybe both.

    or heh, get an epetition started to get the Googlemoz back on track. I think it would be funny if two petitions were sent one to NIX the project and another to get it back online.
    Q
     
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  17. martty

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    i have no idea
     
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  18. helleborine

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    I haven't recognized DMOZ descriptions in search results in my spheres of interest for ages. And I would recognize them, because I wrote, or re-wrote most of them.
     
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    You're confused because

    1. you seem to think you are saying something that contradicts what I have said, which is that Google had pretty much stopped updating the Google Directory
    2. you seem to be discounting the possibility that the search from the Google Directory is anything different from the DMOZ search or regular Google search of any site and therefore that the fact that the search returns more recent results means that Google is downloading RDF dumps - which clearly is not necessarily true and wouldn't make any sense

    More evidence for my point. Thank you, helleborine. :)
     
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  20. martty

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    If they are not downloading the recent DMOZ rdf dumps, then please explain why in a search of the Google Directory recent additions to DMOZ are showing up in the search at the Google Directory search with the category being identified. Where else would Google be getting this information from apart from an RDF dump?
     
    martty, Apr 12, 2007 IP