If you believe that Islamic law should be civil law, then you must believe in Islamic law. So, let's boil this frog. What does your interpretation of the Koran tell you should be the penalty for a married woman who has sex outside of her marriage? What does your interpretation of the Koran tell you should be the penalty for two boys who engage in homosexual sex? What does your interpretation of the Koran tell you should be the penalty for a person who publishes a book that calls Muhammad a child molester? What does your interpretation of the Koran tell you should be the penalty for a Muslim who leaves the faith and then publicly says bad things about Islam?
I am not anexpert of Islamic Law..... however, we have a law inour country to give death sentence who abused holy prophet (pbuh). And its not about only Holy Prophet Muhaamad (pbuh) but all the holy prophets (pbut). The final punishment of having sex outside the marriage to a married man/woman is death sentence but as i earlier said its more of symbolic punishment. Practically Allah (swt) makes it almost impossible to meet the condition which are necessary to give such punishment. I am not sure of punishment of homesexuality I am also not sure about the punishment of person leaving Islam
yes, agreed. I am not trying to convince him.....just trying to clarify the facts which these few people are spreading confusion about. So that other people reading this thread can have true picture
ppl reading this topic will see our messages and understand the truth.they already did . as they have the ability to accept their faults if they are .
Astire: If: You believe that it is morally correct to murder people for speaking their minds openly concerning religion. (which you admit) -or- You believe that it is morally correct to murder people for self-selecting their sexual mates. (which you admit) Then: You do believe that it is morally right to terrorize people into following the strictures of your religion. These people would not follow the strictures of your religion if it were not for the terror in their hearts over the fear of being murdered. If you believe that it is morally right to terrorize people into following the strictures of your religion, then you are a terrorist. Why do you believe that it is right to murder people who do not follow the rules of your religion? How can that be morally correct?
I'm an atheist. Well, mostly atheist anyway, since it is impossible to be completely certain. Hmmm, I guess i'll call myself an atheist agnostic then. pengoo
you even dont know the differnce of murder and punishment. the people who are given deatch sentence in US are being murdered or being punished?
Yes, we see your messages. And the videos on TV, the information in books, news on the radio and internet. Yes, we see the bombs going off, planes flying into buildings, heads being cut off, property being destroyed. Yes, we understand all too well what your religion is all about. I'm convinced, sign me up!
People in the U.S get sentenced to death for killing other people. Even then it doesn't happen often. We don't kill people for breaking a religious rule or getting raped. Hell, we don't even kill our rapists, let alone the woman getting raped. Yet your religion actually punishes the rape victim, that's very nice. Not backwards at all. http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183 http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21332543-2,00.html http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256980,00.html Shall I go on? P.S. Praise Allah!
Ahem. First, let's talk about the difference between malum per se and malum juris. Then, the follow-on discussion will actually make sense. I do not fault Islam for killing murderers; I do fault Islam for murdering people for exercising their natural right of free speech. What is the difference? One is malum per se and the other is malum juris. Do a bit of research and we'll talk more.
we aare not trying to convince you nor anything. Islam is a religion that no forcement is needed.you come with your wish.
Do you think torturing prisoners and imprisonment without charge or trial is malum in se or malum juris?
Ohh !!!! I think you forgot the Bible again ?? Really ?? Lets have a look again :: "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. (From the NIV Bible, Leviticus 20:13)" I think you must not go against the rules of Bible if you are a true christian, but Ohh !! I forgot again that you are American & British not Christians... Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me." She wished if he was her brother so that she wouldn't have to take him home in secret. Now if he was truly her husband, then what would prompt her to wish that he was her brother? I think the brother is considered outside the marriage of a sister .. Isn't ?? I hope so for Christians. Next time, I will give you the responce, I hope what I quoted is enough for you today. Just let me ask you what If there was Jesus (as) on the Place if Muhammad (p.b.u.h) ?? Some others already replied. Brother in Islam, Postingpays,
I think you missed my post as well, which have got your answer as well. anyhow, I will repeat here :: "'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. (From the NIV Bible, Leviticus 20:13)" What you will comment on this verse...
WE DON'T ACTUALLY KILL THEM, HOWEVER YOUR RELIGION DOES. P.S. I understand how much the truth hurts members of the religion of peace. Thanks for the -reps
Also what I find interesting, the loud mouth homosexuals are more interested in attacking Bush than Islam. Yet Islam would put them to death for being who they are. Gotta love the liberal mindset...