I acquired a dropped domain recently. cibersweden.net - I chose it for a few reasons. It's PR6. PaigeRank review is already in motion, snapshot was performed while domain was active. Unlikely to move at all, and likely in future to rise. It has many quality back links (51 in all). All but 3 are from PR7 or PR6 sites. It also has some entries in Archive.org. The other 3 sites linking to it are PR 5! It contains a word sure to help spawn ads - Sweden. Gmail was on overdrive when the confirmaiton email containing this URL arrived. No hyphens or numbers. The site was previously covering many HOT topics. Topics worth lots of revenue; · Manufacturing · Retail and Distribution · Sport and Leisure · Financial Services · Business Services · Government – central and local · Energy and Utilities A large portion of the incoming PR6 links are from an English site. Other regions linked include Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, UK, Australia, China, Finland, Russia and Spain. No incoming links from low PR sites. All incoming links are from archived press releases - links will not be altered in future. Company owns hundreds of domains and is unlikely to even realise this has expired - many others (without PR ) have also dropped. So what you experts think? I would appreciate an appriasal if you could be so kind, as I need a quick sale and will probably sell for less than it is worth. Thank you.
Refee! It's not PR6. it has ZERO inlinks! It was mirror of another domain http://www.google.com/search?q=info:www.cibersweden.net FYI. Real PR6 domains expired are 500-1000$ on auctions.
Every validator I tried it in said it was genuine? How do I tell in future if it is not real? Does the domain have no value at all?
I just used the same format as you used for digitalpoint.com - it also shows nothing. Shouldn't it be 'link' not 'info'?
The PR and backlinks look good to me. You can probably sell to the right buyer for a few hundred. Not saying they would buy it but possibly Jim Westergren or Marcus Westerberg here on the forums might be interested in it. I know if I was them I would.
Perhaps it has not been a complete waste of my time then. Thanks for the input Aaron. I'll see what everyone else thinks too.
Only thing that would concern me is that the backlinks could be from the same owner of the domain you picked up since they are similiar domain names. Meaning they could remove your link.
Yes. You are right, it has 51 backlinks. This site looks promising and guess you may get a few hundred for it. If it is in English then I might want to consider it.
I appreciate the concern aaron. For that reason I would be willing to let it go for less, I appreciate it may affect the value. But at the same time I believe it is highly unlikely the links will be changed. This was one of many domains they have let drop and they have removed no references to any of the others. As the links are part of press releases e.t.c., I doubt anyone would make the effort to edit them, or even notice what has happened. Thanks for the input ehhan.
Correct, nothing in Yahoo as far as I know. A domain's PR is not going to have any effect in Yahoo anyway, is it?
I want to sell you two PR8 sites and 3 PR7 sites for 50$ each. Are you interested? link:www.cibersweden.net shows links not to the domain www.cibersweden.net but to domain that is shown in info:www.cibersweden.net, e.g www.ciber-sweden.com! It is www.ciber-sweden.com that has PR6 and 51 links. There are several ways to check if domain's pagerank is not genuine 1. info:www.cibersweden.net in Google 2. cache:www.cibersweden.net in Google 3. checking Yahoo backlinks
Please put the toys back inside the pram, mister. I at no point said I believe it to be valuable, I am just not willing to accept ONE person's opinion. Remember, this is the appraisal forum - for all members, not just for FelixCat. You have made valid points, but believe it or not your opinion is not cast iron fact. I simply wanted the opinion of other members. I've also realised that the majority of the PR checkers out there aint worth the paper they're printed on. Things have got a little heated here, but I had no intention to cause friction!
I'm under my chair... LOL Ok. Find me please at least one JUST ONE page that links to your "valuable" domain. if Ðaron (sorry Aaron) said you that this domain has 51 links to it this means exactly that Ðaron also doesn't know how to check if domain has valid pagerank. I've bought a lot of domains that has real PR6. And I know a lot of ways to check if domain has valid PR. Your domain failed all the tests! Google info test failed, Google cache shows another domain and there are no backlinks in Yahoo. If you want to test it with special domain services. Here you are http://www.checkpagerank.net/index.php?name=cibersweden.net&links=1 There are thing that has very definite value. For example PR0 domain has zero value. As to domain name - it's regfee. Sorry. You've acquired dropped domain with forged pagerank
Show me at least one domain name checker that said it has not forged pagerank. Perhaps you used services that show PR from different Google data-centers. These utils doesn't tell if pagrank is valid or not. But now I hope you know how to check valid page rank. Be happy that you've paid only regfee for it. You could lost much more money by purchasing such domain from crooks.
I appreciate the input Felix. I'm brand new to this! I have done a week's worth of intensive reading into this field, and am trying to make some money. Unfortunately I did not only pay reg fee for it, but some investments don't pay off. I'm not pissed off, I'll just try again! I thought I had it all worked out, but the input you have given me here has made me realise I did not. I am now a step closer and appreciate you explaining this stuff to me. I just don't like being 'attacked', especially when it seemed in your response, you had not even read my post properly. But hey, I'm not here to hold a grudge and I hope you aren't either. But in response to your questions... I realise now that what you have said is all right. I just wanted other people's input too! I see that it all mirrors to the .com - I had thought because I could see data in the archive.org that it had been hosted as a virtual domain, but alas it seems not. You say it has failed all of the tests, would you mind telling me what are the criteria - is everything you posted above all I need to check in future? Also, if the PR IS genuine (on another future domain), if it has only very few backlinks (5 or 6 maybe) is this OK? Or does that mean PR is forged? I have visited the URL you provided, I had used it before and misunderstood what it had said. It shows domain is only a day old, obviously... But would that tool say a PR is forged purely because it was dropped? Or is this OK (for future domain)? I used tools such as iwebtool e.t.c. I realise now they do not tell if the PR is genuine or not. Because I did not buy domain from a private individual I did not see any reason why the PR would not be valid. But now I understand. Beacause the PR is not genuine, does this mean that there is NO benefit AT ALL in placing links on this site? I am happy if this is the case - just making sure.
It was hosted as a virtual domain. But it was parked on .com domain. Archive.org shows content that was on .com domain. Everything that I posted above. Info, cache, Yahoo backlinks. If at least one fails then pagerank is forged. If number of google backlinks is more (or even equals) than number of Yahoo backlinks - this domain is also to be suspected as with forged pagerank. As soon as this links have high PR it's ok. There are cases when PR is high but links that made this PR already taken. For example to make PR6 at least on PR6 page must be in Yahoo backlinks. It says you in red that Pagerank seems to be forged!. Actually it checks google's cache and depending on result indicates if pagerank is forged or valid. It has nothing to do with how old domain is. If you believe that link from PR0 page benefits you then link from this site is OK. But I don't think there is any reason to link from this zero domain.