Will you sign an epetition to stop google using dmoz?

Discussion in 'Google' started by skillipedia, Apr 7, 2007.

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Will you sign an epetition to stop google using dmoz

  1. Yes I will! Where is it?

    41 vote(s)
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  2. No a good idea!

    18 vote(s)
    24.3%
  3. I am listed and getting some of Google cheese! Leave him alone

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  4. I am a dmoz editor. What will I do?

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  1. skillipedia

    skillipedia Well-Known Member

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    #21
    popotalk ,


    Right now, I am not even entertaining the idea of being listed. If fact, I didn't and won't resubmit my web site again.

    For the last three months I've been concentrating mainly on completing the self-definition of my four-years project - not gathering links.

    My main hope for my web site to take off is its quality.

    I believe there is something wrong with Dmoz, but nobody seems to be able to fix it as the only people who could be blamed or made accountable - are the editors!

    This survey is meant to make enough noise to make AOL and Google
    reconsider the way they are using Dmoz.

    Cheers
     
    skillipedia, Apr 8, 2007 IP
  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #22
    What makes you think Google IS "using" DMOZ?

    1. I see no evidence that Google gives any more weight to a DMOZ link than to any other link with equivalent relevance and PR.

    I’m on debunking duty
    Matt Cutts
    December 8, 2006

    In comments:

    2. I see little evidence that Google can even be bothered to update the DMOZ feeds to the Google clone directory. The Google Directory seems to be an orphaned project which originated a few years ago in an unsuccessful and unnecessary attempt to compete with the Yahoo! Directory.
     
    minstrel, Apr 8, 2007 IP
  3. NewBoy

    NewBoy Peon

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    #23
    I am interested in the subject and simply requested a poll impovement.

    You, on the other hand, should not be probably policing people on the forum.
     
    NewBoy, Apr 8, 2007 IP
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    axlarry Notable Member

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    #24
    Any good reason why? Dmoz is "owned' by google if I'm not mistaken? Just like Google and wiki?
     
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  5. adiace

    adiace Active Member

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    #25
    People need to stop worrying about getting into Dmoz where it comes to the point where someones makes a thread about an "epetition".... :rolleyes:

    There was a thread here a month or two ago where someone blamed Dmoz for losing over $100,000 because their site didn't get listed and competitors got better SERPs than him which made his business a failure.

    If you don't like Dmoz or think the wait is too long, don't use it. After all, they have no obligation to cater to your needs.
     
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  6. Nerve

    Nerve Peon

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    #26
    Yes, I would!
     
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  7. brealmz

    brealmz Well-Known Member

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    #27
    i did not vote because there is no option "unsure"

    ive submitted to dmoz a couple of times and have no luck at all. i even submitted one of my clients non-profit 5 year old website and still it was rejected. i believe some editors are corrupts or monopolizing some categories.

    in my own opinion google must have an alternatives before stopping using dmoz or else google serp will give an irrelevant result and lose their market share.
     
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  8. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #28

    And you think you can change the Air we breath here on earth. C'mon be realistic if you want to change DMOZ just buy it from AOL. Run and manage it according to your taste.

    This survey is NOTHING. Ask Minstrel above HOW MUCH NOISE WE MADE. We won some though. Go to DMOZ thread and LOOK IT UP of Last Years threads.

    The Editors have nothing to do with you they just do their jobs oh yes its not even a JOB its voluntarily. I don't like DMOZ same as you do. I go to Resource Zone they see me log in and post in 2 seconds my post get DELETED. In their eyes I am a CRIMINAL :D . But who cares.

    Its much better for you to save your time checking out the OZONE LAYER. :p
     
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  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #29
    No. DMOZ is owned by Netscape which in turn is owned by AOL.

    Absolute balderdash. Google is about as dependent on DMOZ as some of the people in this thread are on common sense. :rolleyes:
     
    minstrel, Apr 8, 2007 IP
  10. brealmz

    brealmz Well-Known Member

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    #30
    well its just my own opinion and i still stand into it. your right pagerank has nothing to with dmoz but when it comes to google serp i think google was more favorable to dmoz listed site. when i try to search high competing keywords 90 percent of results on the first page was dmoz listed.. it was just in my own observation
     
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  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #31
    Ohhh-kayyy....
     
    minstrel, Apr 8, 2007 IP
  12. brealmz

    brealmz Well-Known Member

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    #32
    :D at least you did not reply with disagreement. iwas nervous about your reply.
     
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  13. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #33
    People that seem to be unhappy with DMOZ are the people not listed. Which I guess makes sense, but I do ask Why weren't you listed & what category did you submit too?

    In the last six months I tried getting into over 100 directories, and for many of them I've still not been added. Oddly enough, DMOZ was the only one I complained about. I have a feeling I am not alone. Why do you think that is?

    I think if DMOZ ever did go under complaints will just shift to a new direction...so before you go off and kill the ODP off, look at the alternatives.

    I mean, it is doing more good then bad in the end...isn't it?
     
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  14. adiace

    adiace Active Member

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    #34
    I think it's a waste of time, time would better spent on improving your website, getting backlinks and writing more content. Instead there's a bunch of people complaining about ONE directory that in the long run will really have no big impact on your site. :rolleyes:
     
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  15. skillipedia

    skillipedia Well-Known Member

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    #35
    The latest interesting suggestion in this epetition is to mirror domz worldwide in terms of editing, reviewing and hosting

    Sounds a reasonable solution!
     
    skillipedia, Apr 9, 2007 IP
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    #36
    I suppose a lot of people haven't ever been listed. Because if you had been, you would soon realise that a Dmoz listing, no matter how much it is cloned across other websites, is still worth very, very little. It sends little to no direct traffic, and the effect on your PR is minimal for most categories.

    Seriously, find another way to campaign for the purity of the SERPs.
     
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  17. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #37
    Exactly!

    File under "voice of sanity in the wilderness of lemmings".
     
    minstrel, Apr 9, 2007 IP
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    #38
    I like Dmoz so I wouldn't sign it.
     
    BigBadWolf, Apr 9, 2007 IP
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #39
    Google should not stop using dmoz data but maybe they should give less weight to the links from the clones.The backlinks from the clones makes dmoz worthy.
    I see sites reaching to pr5 only from the backlinks from dmoz clones and they are old.
     
    zangief, Apr 9, 2007 IP
  20. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #40
    1. I believe you mean "weight" not "wait".

    2. That's already the case.

    No you don't. That's utter nonsense.
     
    minstrel, Apr 9, 2007 IP
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