How to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans

I suspect if you were not so busy replying to everyone who doesn't support your buds about how bad their posts are getting (yes, we notice the pattern, AGS), the only other thing you could possibly post about was how there's some big conspiracy that all posts by one group of people are the same.

Actually, I do keep a little notepad file on my desktop with some quick reference material. Since you are interested, here it is:

 

I read some of gworld´s posts from 2005 and they are almost exactly the same wording as new ones from him. If the response doesn´t change, why not link to an old one.

 

Everything is one big conspiracy with AGS!

Forum posters are coming to get you, AGS, in big black helicopters and black jackets with little "sheep" embroidered on the left breast and big upper case letters on the back that say "THE MAN!"

 

Jesus H Christ mate, you are more insane than I originally thought.

 

Coming from someone who refuses to seek treatment for delusion, I take that as a compliment!

 

lol get a life Gtech !

 

It might be easier just to tell everyone the areas in life or work that you are NOT an expert in, if any.

You should contact Al Gore, you could help him in the few areas he isn't an expert. (or inventor of..)

 

Looks like Commandos picked up some useful tips!

 

Getting back to the premise of this thread....that posts in forums like this will foster anti-war sentiment among Americans--and how absurd that is.

As I stated, lies and incompetence by the administration are the fundamental reasons.

In reality if there had been a quick victory and no violence any internal US opposition would have died out quickly.

But while there was a fast military victory the violence that has ensued exposed the level of lies and incompetence that has stirred anti-war sentiment. In that regard it is just like Vietnam.

Latest further revelation of lies.....that there were strong ties between Al-Queda and Saddam; read this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/05/AR2007040502263.html?hpid=topnews

To top it off, yesterday Cheney referenced this line of thinking w/ Rush Limbaugh. That is five years after US intelligence identified that there were no strong lasting ties between Al Queda and Saddam....Cheney continues to reference this line of thinking.

That is a FIVE YEAR LIE.

Anyone who thinks that the majority of the American population can't figure that out has to be a fool....or a member of a small and growing smaller tiny minority of the population that buys that cr@p. Fortunately most Americans are too smart for that.

Secondly, I contrast the Bush Administration efforts with those of FDR as referenced above.

He told the truth to the American public about the need to sacrifice to engage the enemy in WWII and through the very efforts he described the war against a foe overwhelmingly larger than that in Iraq was accomplished.

During that period of time American anti-war sentiment was muted. The difference was that there was a shared committment and a sense of sacrifice carried by all Americans.

This administration acts totally different. It attacks Americans for not agreeing with it, branding them as traitors and Al-Queda supporters. Alternatively, when someone like Shinesky disagrees, the administration effectively shuts him up by demoting and shunting him off to the backwaters; an effective way to warn any others in the military to watch what they say.

As mentioned above, the Rumsfeld response in 2004 to the lack of armour was to simply quash it...."you go to war with the army you have not the army you want." How different is that response from the Roosevelt response which was essentially....we will build the military we need to win. And in a relatively short time victory did occur.

Bush's proclamations are based on fantasies and fear. Let's take one of the favorites: If we withdraw troops the terrorists will follow and fight us here.

The following nations have withdrawn troops from Iraq: Nicaragua, Spain, Dominican Republic, Honduras, Philippines, Thailand, New Zealand, and Tonga in 2004.

Portugal, The Netherlands, Hungary, Singapore, Norway, and Ukraine in 2005. Japan and Italy in 2006 and Slovakia in January 2007.

Additionally Poland has announced a withdrawal (first by end of 2006 - now extended to mid 2007). Denmark plans to withdraw troops by 8/07.


Countries planning to withdraw from Iraq: Poland had earlier claimed that it would withdraw all soldiers by the end of 2006. It however extended the mandate of its contingent through at least mid-2007. Denmark announced that it would withdraw its troop contingent by August 2007. Additionally South Korea and the United Kingdom have also announced planned withdrawals.


According to the Bushies way of thinking all of these countries should be seeing increased attacks by Al-Queda and Islamic terrorists. "If we don't fight them in Iraq...we will have to fight them at home"--kind of thinking.

While there have been terrorist attacks around the world....last I checked there weren't widespread examples of this Bush administration fear mongering in all those countries.

Lies and incompetence. Just as during the war in Vietnam....these are the underlying reasons for anti-war sentiment. Attacking Americans who disagree with the administration policy only serve to harden that type of reasoning.

 

Not really absurd at all. One, we can simply look at your posts as an example, but two, you actually defended kerry's treason to our country. Could you make it any clearer?

Just because you support anti-Americanism doesn't mean everyone does. Your arguments are not arguments, but (for the most part) dishonest opinions and nothing more.

It's a shame you let blind hatred guide what might otherwise be rational points of view.

 

GTech, at least earlpearl makes an effort and thinks about what he posts and goes into great detail other than what you do which is post the usual diatribe.

 

Are you trying to project your shortcomings onto me? LMAO!

Seems like anyone who is anti-US (or at the very least, never has anything good to say about America) is inline for your pom poms!

 

Didn't the way he always seems to dig up posts by members and the variety and age of these posts set off any red flags for you
It didn't take long for me to realize how radical and fanatical he really is.



I'm sure he has some more files on his desktop with "profiles" of DP members participating in the P&R forum.

The shear volume of dedication almost makes you believe he's still employed by the gov as a "public relations" soldier to battle it out on the forums.

Psych Black Ops

 

I think we went through this all, I posted how this war was started on a lie, i proved it with facts and i will always believe that. We need our soldiers home. Only way peace will come back to iraq is to unfortunately support another brutal dictator like we did with saddam in the 80's. That sectarian fighting is a mess there. When will everyone finally face the fact that we are there for a lie and our soldiers are getting picked off there like fruits off a tree. These are not numbers people, these soldiers are human beings dying for what?

I can always digg up the facts that i posted that suddenly made the pro war people silent if you guys want, but why not read through my old posts? The facts are all there. When will we learn ? We didnt learn when we found out many years later that the gulf of tonkin was a staged incident because of nsam 273 and we still havent learned now with this iraq war.

Any knowledgable human knows that saddam and osama are bitter enemies , their beliefs are 100% opposite and the pro war mongers here and in the government still want us to believe that this war is for a noble cause.
If oil and power were a noble cause then this is the most noble of wars in the history of man

 

I don't recall that, ping. What lie are you referring to and what facts were presented? Usually when your interpretations of history are challenged, there's not a followup response. Gulf of Tonkin? Still speculation. Different people say different things. NV General denies attack one, confirms Attack two. How many millions of people died after we pulled out of Vietnam? Vietnam is long over.

saddam vs osama. The argument made is based upon an assumption. I've previously covered many articles and relationships between them. New documents emerged in 2005 that further confirms there were relationships.

If the US were to pull out of Iraq today, what do you believe would happen in Iraq and how many do you believe would die because of it?

 

I just followed a link from other topic to this one here.

Please d16man can you show me where I posted anti-american stuff ?

My disagreement with you or some other forum members on some topics does not mean I am anti-american !

 

Any one who doesn't agree with the sissy cheer leaders squad is anti-American, pro-terrorist by default.

 

But this kind of "behavior" is anti-american isn't it.

I doubt they will get it

 

Incorrect. However, there is no doubt you are anti-America and pro-terrorist. You've more than made that clear in the past two years.