US offered military action to free 15 British soldiers

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    The US offered to take military action on behalf of the 15 British sailors and marines held by Iran, including buzzing Iranian Revolutionary Guard positions with warplanes, the Guardian has learned.

    In the first few days after the captives were seized and British diplomats were getting no news from Tehran on their whereabouts, Pentagon officials asked their British counterparts: what do you want us to do? They offered a series of military options, a list which remains top secret given the mounting risk of war between the US and Iran.

    But one of the options was for US combat aircraft to mount aggressive patrols over Iranian Revolutionary Guard bases in Iran, to underline the seriousness of the situation.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2051971,00.html
     
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  2. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    It's called 'allies'. No different with Israel, Japan, and everyone else. They are our allies, that's what you do for your allies.
     
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    Let me see if I get it right, these sailors decided to sign a contract to kill and be killed at expense of British taxpayers, rather than get a job. So it only makes sense if American taxpayers spend money to free these foreigners. After all, it was the only way they could make a living, and it's our fault.
    I could signup for the military and go invade some country in Middle East, but I didn't. Anybody can guess why? BECAUSE YOU CAN GET KILLED IN THE ARMY, FOR REAL!
     
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    so you are saying that becoming a soldier is taking the lazy way out?? Oh, thats going to get some more comments on here....:D
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    What are you babbling about?
     
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  6. demosfen

    demosfen Peon

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    Sure, I think it's about the only time John Kerry said something meaningful (and he did backtrack). For someone with little education, few skills, and low ambition it might seem like a good choice. Otherwise why would they sign up? I am hoping they were aware they could get killed, so they probably thought it was worth it?
    Personally, they'd have to capture and kill me before they can draft me. I see none of you guys are in Middle East, so you probably decided it's not a good idea as well.
     
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  7. cupid

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    I am not CRUEL. I am a REALIST:

    Anyone who sign up of military are weakest members of Capitalist society. They prefer Steady Pay Cheque from the GOVERNMENT.

    Rather than offering SOME THING IN VALUE FOR EXCHANGE IN CAPITALIST SYSTEM. They rather go for Military to GET PAID. When you singup for military, you should know KILLING, and GETTING KILLED IS FOR REAL.

    Once they join, they RATIONALIZE their DECISION by "PROTECTING MY COUNTRY", as DAYS, WEEKS, and MONTHs and YEARS go buy.

    If they do come back home all in one piece, they tell their kids and others, "HE/SHE was PROTECTING THE COUNTRY". What they don't tell their kids or anyone is, "I COULDN'T SURVIVE IN MAN MADE SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST CALLED: CAPITALISM." Also the offspring JOIN THE ARMY in some cases.

    If you don't come back home all in one piece, then there things called "BALANCING THE BUDGET" done in Washington.

    If you are in the army and send to fight, then YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR SOMEONE ELSE INTEREST. AND YOU ARE GETTING PAID TO DO IT.

    period.
     
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    Depend which army you are in ... sometime u get sent to naughty place(where you fight for someone else interest) and sometime you are sent to help the people .

    And being in the army is not an easy job , its a very hard job ...
     
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    would have been crazy if it had came to conflict hey...
     
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    chulium Well-Known Member

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    That's not a bad thing... supporting our allies? HORRIBLE! :eek:
     
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    And thankfully it all turned out fine, peacefully and without anyone getting killed. :)

    We have too many warmongering hawks in this P&R forum.
     
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    Well, being on this forum, you should know that there are a lot of people doing quite well financially, who are not necessarily contributing anything of value.

    I generally agree about this part.
     
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    Yes, it's nice of America to ask as they are our allies & vice versa.

    I'm sure the UK would offer their help to America if they ever need it.
     
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    It will be interesting to read/hear about all the scenario's/activities/offers/strategies etc. that were in play during this two week period.

    I'm glad to know that the sailors and marines came out safe.
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    For the Iranians, you mean. Because it was clear you didn't give a rats ass about your fellow countrymen and sold them out.

    We have too many terrorist sympathizers in the forum. Period.

    BTW, great news in the OP! Good to see "allies" cooperating together. Is it true what I'm hearing, that the soldiers were abused by AGS' buds?
     
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    Gtech if there is someone Terrorist in this forum it you Stupid A.H

    it's normal for you to kill civilians , its the only thing you know and most of ur BS posts are the same .

    accusing other of being Terorists sympathizers :D , MORON
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I don't mind the name calling. My skin is far thicker than your head. Idiot, moron and all the rest of your usual diatribe simply communicate that you cannot refute what I'm saying. So I welcome the name calling. It works to my advantage.
     
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    Yes i know , you are used to the Failure :D

    Go back to your posts and you will see that its all the same thing repeating your self without any kind of proofs , just insulting other and claiming they are terrorists .

    You bashed Canadians , Californians , most people who contradicted you ...

    You have no value and no common sense ... go get a life ;) :D
     
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    I see it as a bad thing. We are already involved in two Middle East wars that we cannot win, and the US tried to get involved in another Middle East conflict that the public would probably be overwhelmingly against.

    I'm all for supporting allies, but only if it involves the correct means. We have diplomats for a reason.
     
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    When diplomacy fails or is not an option, action has to be taken. We can only use diplomacy so long as the other side is willing to cooperate. Obviously, looking at 9/11 and other actions - terrorists aren't willing to come to the White House for a spot of tea and discuss peace treaties! :???:

    What "two" wars in the Middle East do you refer to? I see only one here: the war against terrorism; a global war.

    Just because the ignorant public is against a war, that doesn't make the war wrong. Look at who you value as the absolute - and your opinions should be relative to that. The proper absolute determines the just and the right vs. the unjust and wrong causes.

    A war we cannot win? How can you possibly know that? Because the odds are against us? Because you think evil will destroy good.
     
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