I knew it! Invading Iraq was all about the oil

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by lorien1973, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #21
    AGS is always there to console someone :D
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #22
    He's and enabler.
     
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  3. Josh Inno

    Josh Inno Guest

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    #23
    Are you saying that Bush has a Mr. Scruffy?
     
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  4. Josh Inno

    Josh Inno Guest

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    #24
    I always thought of oil as a stabilizing factor in the middle east as stability is a necessity for buisness and profit. You have to at least put on a fake smile to sell things generally. If the oil in the region runs out, what reason do the extremists in the area have to reign in their hate?

    As for the oil in Alaska, I was under the impression that there is a delicate ecosystem up there and that we would potentially wipe out endangered species if we drilled. Even if that is not the case (or it is, but we need the energy badly enough) do you have any information on how much is there?

    Honestly, if I am ignorant to the situation in Alaska, and you have links to documentation of the actual situation, I would love to be on the receiving end of such a link. When I find ignorance in myself I try to cut it out, even if all I have is a metaphorical spoon.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #25
    The hatred was there before oil, and will likely be there after oil. The thing that will be different when the oil is gone, is there will be no way to support that hate.

    "Delicate ecosystem"? Cha... and mokeys might fly out of my butt.

    How much oil?
    "U.S. Geological Survey - 1980. In 1980, the U.S. Geological Survey estimated the Coastal Plain could contain up to 17 billion barrels of oil and 34 trillion cubic feet of natural gas."

    http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/alaska-oil-anwar.html

    http://www.anwr.org/
     
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  6. aramiK

    aramiK Peon

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    #26
    tell me something I didn't know right after the official announcement.
     
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  7. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #27
    :rolleyes:


    I agree! (sometimes I go out of my way to agree with Mia, and his boys -- though it is hard)
     
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  8. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #28
    A little misleading post for us who actually read the link you posted :D

    Let me quote :D


    Get something in your head already ... ALL wars were and are still fought for resources and you can turn things any way you want ! It is all about resources at the end...
     
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  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #29
    What's misleading? The countries I listed are getting the initial oil contracts. China seems to have the inside track for the bigger ones too. Do american oil firms have any of the contracts right now? No.

    It totally goes against the "war for oil" nonsense, doesnt it.
     
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  10. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #30
    Please read the article again. The contracts are not signed yet....

    This article means nothing ;)

    But it is good as long as oil will be sold in dollars :D

    It would be interesting to see ownership structure of those "foreign" companies :D
     
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  11. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #31
    You are really stretching aren't you?
     
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  12. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #32
    he always does...that is the only way he can make things fit his agenda...and like he said, things will be traded in dollars....now is that US dollars are Australian dollars?
     
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  13. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #33
    Look the article says US companies will get business also and that Iraqis very much want them since they are known as best in the field ;) Get the point ?

    Of course Chinese and all the rest will get part of the cake also ....

    What was disturbing for me was oh oh war is not fought for oil etc... Lorien every war is fought for resources, either oil, people ( yes people like cheap workforce ), gold, land ( you know arable land ), put here anything you want. Sure you don't think Iraq was center of terrorism few years back ?? Come on it was very much secular country and there were more terrorists in Egypt than in Iraq ....
     
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  14. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #34
    We already know you are really not the guy who can talk about politics or any other subject concerning life, politics, history and similar since your knowledge is quite limited so you better shut up before I bring you down again for n-time ;)
     
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  15. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #35
    so what resources were the pilots of 9/11 wanting? What resources was alzarqawri wanting before he beheaded people? What resources what amadenajihad wanting when he kidnapped those 15 british troops?

    n-time? Just how big of an idiot are you?
     
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  16. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #36
    So you are (seriously) telling me that some US oil companies will get some oil business? I'm shocked!

    Come now, please be serious here. At least have a serious dispute here if you wish to continue the conversation.

    The -point- is that the intial contracts are going to foreign firms and China has the inside track for larger deals in the future. I know you want to spin this in some different direction. People who claim we went there for oil were saying that the US went over there to loot all the oil and steal it from the Iraqis. That is not what is happening, correct?

    Also, please read the part where it says the new government will be honoring Saddam's old contracts. It's not a long article, it is quite easy to understand.

    And must we rehash the same old tired Saddam rhetoric? He was a terrorist supporter, there is no denying it. He paid families of palestinians who blew themselves up. He had a weapons program. He murdered millions of people. Disobeyed UN resolutions, etc etc. Quit beatin' off to the guy, he was a bad dictator.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #37
    It is interesting that you call people idiots :D
     
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  18. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #38
    the problem with iatbm is that all he cares about is his own agenda, which is to support anyone who is against the USA...notice how he has now gone to responding to my posts and will ignore yours all together...this is his way of not having to answer about the facts.
     
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  19. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #39
    God, reading d16's quotes in other peoples posts is such a good reminder why he is on ignore
     
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  20. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #40
    Please read the last paragraph of the article ;)

    Let's just wait and see till the end of 2007 :)

    About Saddam and terrorist connection. Do you know why allies attacked Iraq ? It was not about terrorist. That was another country :D
     
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