"Kosher" bus lines?!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by zztop, Mar 31, 2007.

  1. zztop

    zztop Guest

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    #41
    I rarely insult people and I rarely use language like you "civilizied people" use.
    With this post you only showing your level of education and culture. Have a nice day "mam".
     
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  2. zztop

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    #42
    hahahahahahah I just noticed this:
    ""Kosher" bus... Mar 31st 2007 7:43 pm May 30th 2007 7:43 pm 2 Attacking/Harassing Other Members"
    I got infraction too! I wonder from who? :rolleyes: ! How big hypocrit someone can be huh samantha!?!
    Be A REAL MAN and take insult like you give them! :D
    Btw I wonder how did I attacked/harassed anyone? :rolleyes:

    Btw can you please quote my post where did I "insulted" you? I would love to see that and compare to what you said. (check out sig btw)
     
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  3. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #43
    zztop, you reported Sam, so why moan when your reported too. I bet you have even reported me but nothing was found to be wrong probably the same with Gtech etc.

    When posting in these forum (P & R) you need to realise people will get heated & do make slight remarks to each other, unless these remarks are extremely bad i suggest you don't report them.

    Or if you don't like people making slight remarks to you then don't make slight remarks others, you can't have your cake & eat it.

    Your sig is great;)
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #44
    Don't worry about infractions and do not play into the hands of these crazys by putting them in your signature.

    You can run up 10 infraction points without being banned. A few months ago I was sat on 9 points for quite some time.

    I couldn't even call GTech a cunt. :( It was a mighty depressing time.

    If the true letter of the law was implied then we would all be banned because people like me and you (the truthers) are always attacking the crazys (Bush supporters) all the time. And vice versa. :)
     
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  5. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #45
    Article 74. Adultery, whether punishable by flogging or stoning, may be proven by the testimony of four just men or that of three just men and two just women.

    she needs 4 guys or 3 guys and 2 women that witness the rape before she can report it.

    or her rape falls under:
    Article 140. The penalty for false accusation is 80 lashes regardless of the gender of the culprit
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    Article 76. The testimony of women alone or in conjunction with the testimony of only one just man shall not prove adultery but it shall constitute false accusation which is a punishable act



    Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini overthrew the Shah in 1979, ending more than 2,500 years of Persian monarchy. He canceled the law, announced that women no longer could be judges, and segregated beaches and sports by sex. The marriageable age was reduced to 9.

    Article 49 exempts children from punishment. Addendum 1 to this article defines a child as someone before puberty. But in the civil law puberty for boys is 15 and for girls 9 lunar years (article 1210, addendum 1). So girls come of age for punishments six years before boys.

    equal rights huh Gwizz :rolleyes:
     
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    #46
    Quote the penal code all you want, gworld. Or, instead, you can read the news:

    http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183

    Still defending barbarians, are we?

    EDIT - Samantha's post is even better Still mad that I'm calling it barbaric and medieval?
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #47
    Gworld is making it clear again what he supports. He can no longer even attempt to hide it.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #48
    Where does in your rant mentions that the rape victim should be punished? :rolleyes:

    I didn't say that in their laws men and women were equal as a witness but that is their laws and they have the right to decide over their country and laws. This is the same principal that only people living in Denmark have the right to decide over their laws. I do not agree with death sentence and my country doesn't either, does this make USA barbaric and medieval because they have death sentence?


    So the penal code of a country is not important and instead we should look at one case. It was just last week that a German judge made a crazy ruling, does this mean that Germans are barbaric and medieval? How about if a Judge in USA make a decision that is wrong, should we say Americans are barbaric and medieval?
    Now let's look at your story because I am sure you have not read this and just use it as excuse:

    She was not even raped, so how can she be punished for being raped? She was convicted for killing a person in what she thought as self-defense and obviously the court didn't agree with her. I also looked at the case and she was released by higher court of appeal. Can you honestly post that every judgment and decisions by courts in USA are right and fair?

    Just be a man and admit to yourself that for you, women right is just a bunch of BS and you really don't care and what you are really after is to see some Muslims and Arabs killed. ;)
     
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  9. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #49
    In 2004, Atefeh Sahaaleh Rajabi was hastily tried and hanged in Neka in northern Iran. Her case drew international attention because she had no access to legal counsel. Although court documents said she had been 22 at the time of her hanging, her birth certificate and her father's identity information later proved she was only 16.

    Sahaaleh was found guilty by the state of having unlawful sex four times. Human rights activists, however, say the girl suffered psychological problems and was repeatedly raped by a 51-year-old man, according to an Amnesty International report and a BBC documentary. She was hanged. He was sentenced to 100 lashes.

    "The judge who tried her didn't take that into account, and when she appealed, the Supreme Court upheld the sentence anyway. Atefeh's family sued the judge after she was hanged but he has been acquitted," Nasrin Sotoudeh, a lawyer and children's rights activist, told IPS.

    Since Sahaaleh was hanged, Amnesty International has documented at least nine more children executed by the state. In addition, Kaveh Habibnezhad, 14, died after being flogged. The boy had been caught eating in public during the month of fasting, a social worker from a state-run juvenile correction facility told IPS on the condition of anonymity.

    Iran's Shari'a-based law conflicts with international law. International law does not allow executions for sex-related crimes. Shari'a does. In sex-related cases, even if there are no private plaintiffs, defendants are still prosecuted by the state, which acts as the guardian of public morals. When a defendant confesses to a crime or when the sufficient number of witnesses prescribed by Islamic law testifiy to the act, the sentences are automatic.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #50
    If you think these people will say anything negative people about Israel government and policy forget about it. You have to know the history. First Jews were the same as blacks, Communists and dogs then it was a time that Jews were OK and Muslims were USA's friends and freedom fighters in Afghanistan and then the Israel lobby money start to pour in and Jews became the chosen people of God and Israel became God's kingdom on earth. Now you have to wait until, Israel support causes too much problem for administration and they will get used to money from Saudis, so these people will again start to criticize Israel. ;)
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #51
    Considering the nature of this P&R forum and the constant attacks from members to other members infractions are inevitable mate.

    I used to be an admin at one of the biggest forums in the world for over 5 years until 2002 with around 3,000 active (online) members at any one time and I could ban anyone I liked of course, but only banned people for serious offenses. The infraction system here is a great idea but can be fraught with problems if it isn't administered properly.

    The mods seem to have the balance right but some people will always report posts unnecessarily because they think they are clever and it will somehow make the mods think more of them. This is of course nonsense but a few members are very willing to dish out abuse but not very willing to take it. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. Toopac

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    #52
    I said it won't be long before he's gone lol

    Side note: Gworld is talking nonsense again i see.

    Just like your friend zz
     
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  13. zztop

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    #53
    I can undrstand what you mean but imho here we have double standards. If I did get 5 infraction points for this thread (and I dunno how that can be possible) how come haters like will.spencer aren't still banned for life for statments like these ones:

    Those are just some of his posts untill I ignored him. I wonder how much posts like these ones he makes in month if he did make these in less than week. Altough his posts showing only how "mature" he truly is.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #54
    Still couldn't find anything in penal code that mentions that rape victims should be punished, could you? :rolleyes:

    Do they have death penalty? yes, they have. Is it wrong? Yes, in my opinion death penalty is wrong but it is no different than death penalty in USA or China. In fact USA and Iran are one of the very few countries that execute children. You should some times read the Amnesty report about USA. :rolleyes:

    The fact stands that we can think what ever we want about their laws, we can speak against these laws and disagree with it but in the end, the people who are living there, are the one who should decide about it, the same as the people in Denmark or USA do.
     
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    #55
    I find a lot of Wills posts are racist exposing his resentment of certain nationalities. As I have said before if the infraction rule was followed to the letter of the law most of us would be banned. I could find hundreds of posts that warranted an infraction within minutes of searching but the mods have to keep a sense of balance because without any members the P&R forum would be pretty much boring.

    My advice to you is to put the complete idiots on ignore. I only have one person on permanent ignore and that is TWO PACK but I do occasionally put GTech on ignore when the mood takes me. :)
     
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  16. zztop

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    #56
    I got ALL of them on ignore but still I got 5 points because of this thread!?!? I got infraction because of thread hijacking?!? I mean WTF!?!? Who hijacked what in this thread!?!
     
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    #57
    You don't put me on ignore, you just ignore the questions your Irainian supporter/british traitor. You lied before here about blocking me.

    ZZtop - Do you not understand VB in your "culture" lol when you put people on ignore we can still see your posts, we can report them & still correct your statements & putting people on ignore does give you immunity from infraction LMAO
     
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    #58
    I have no idea at all mate. :confused: :confused:
     
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    #59
    Can you imagine that someone can get infraction point for hijacking thread in P&R? I see nothing else than thread hijacking going on here! :D
     
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    #60
    Duh, that's why you got 5 infractions - stupidity at it's finest!
     
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