THE IGNORANCE & STUPIDITY of At(heist)s & Ag(nostic)s

I'm sure that this is where you meant to leave the above statement.

And if you don't mind, lay off my GOD (even if you do mind). I would tell you about your god, but we don't know who he is, huh "At"?

Now when a person don't know who their Father is, what does that make them?

As, maybe even you can see, I can 'serve up a can of a Raymond, MS butt whoppin', with the best of them...

. . .but you really don't want to get my DADDY angry. And don't forget:

JESUS CHRIST
+nothing
=EVERYTHING!
​

 

I can be an athiest if I want to, and the OP is the sole reason I am. Some very religious people tend to be obsessed with their belief to th point where they post about it on a web development forum, and that is why I choose science .

 

I-sa be "driving" MsHazy!

I usually ignore insults from little girls and old folks, but from you, enough is enough.

I'm just trying to get you to exercise that organ that used to be right between your ears, before you relocated your posterior there. And I can see that you have yet to master the process of "ignoring" a Poster, so stop your 'itchin'!

See, once you move on into Eternity (Everlasting Death), and become a former "At", you are going to have forever to think about what you willingly chose to reject, and/or pass up...and you'll be able to see it ALL as well. It is then that you'll begin to understand why,

JESUS CHRIST
+nothing
=EVERYTHING!​

 

..............

 

That is not true, "Ignorance" once was the "reason", but now you know, and you still maintain that you are an "athiest". . .so it is now "Stupidity" that keeps you an "athiest".

If I were 'food to eat', would I then be the "the sole reason", for you being "dung" ???

BTW, I sometimes make typos myself, but whatever I am, I know how to spell it. . .and I can even spell what I AM NOT: a-t-h-e-i-s-t.

That little 'red line' didn't clue you in to your misspelling of "atheist"?

And I would thank you for choosing "science", but I'd be lying. And don't forget now:

JESUS CHRIST
+nothing
=EVERYTHING!​

 

Nehemiah: can you please tone down the text of your posts?
Bless you.

 

Dude....PROVE that this Jesus ever really live. That book is a hodge-podge of stuff that was decided to be the epitome of "holy" by the council of Nice HUNDREDS of years ago...they decided what was holy scripture and what wasn't...MEN decided. The whole thing was written by fallible HUMANS...not some invisible entity. MEN with political agendas decided what went into this so-called "holy" bible. It's been edited numerous times...by the likes of of this council, then the next Roman Emperor, Justinius, edited a few things he didn't like out of it. Then, when the whole, "Protestant Reformation" deal came about because 'good King James' wanted to be able to get a divorce when he wanted...edited out a few of the books that were included in the Catholic bible. All you have to do is get a copy of both the Catholic, and the KJV, and check them. The other stuff IS documented history. The best that any of the books in the bible can really give is that there is some historical references that can be proven about cities that existed....but that's it. There is very little to no evidence that the people in this book ever lived. I am an agnostic....I believe in a lot of things...things that I have had solid physical facts for. That book isn't proof of anything. They are just stories...may as well believe that the stories that have little mice wearing clothes and speaking perfectly clear English are true.

 

Time for the daily "Make Nehemiah look like an idiot" moment, brought to you, once again, by Person.

You provide no evidence for it, therefore it is unfounded. This isn't hard, Nehemiah. If you cannot provide evidence for your claims, they are unfounded, period. Thanks for tacking on yet another ad hominem attack, though. Since you clearly can't be bothered to *gasp* actually talk about the argument at hand or refute my point, all you do is attack me as a person. Of course, that doesn't damage my arguments at all...

Why? Because you assert it? I'm not an idiot, Nehemiah. I won't fall for the moronic tactics you use to preach to your followers. You have made a completely unfounded claim that everything is tied to the spiritual without giving me ANY evidence that this is true. You have given me absolutely nothing showing that the 'spiritual' world exists or even what the hell a 'spiritual' world means. There is absolutely no proof that your claim is true, and I will not accept it until such proof is given.

Dreams are the result of physical processes that occur within our brain. You have absolutely no evidence that they are anything but physical processes, so there is no reason to accept that they are spiritual processes. You still haven't told me what a spiritual process would be or how dreams being spiritual would prove God or refute atheism. Not only that, but since dreams can be interpreted to mean pretty much anything you want them to mean, there's no reason to accept that dreams actually tell us anything about God or the spiritual or whatever.

You really don't get it, Nehemiah. I've read and been confronted with Genesis 1:1 long before you got here. I've given you multiple reasons to reject it, none of which you respond to. All you've done is ignore my points completely and mindlessly assert your correctness. You, my friend, are the ignorant and stupid one. You are ignorant because you lack knowledge of my actual positions and stupid because, given that knowledge, you refused to look at it. No matter how much you blindly assert that I am ignorant, every last one of my arguments will stand.

Unfortunately, you've stopped me from gaining knowledge by not answering me and instead mindlessly asserting your claims over and over. Broken record tactics will not win arguments in this thread, Nehemiah.

I'm not being stupid. Stupidity is refusing to back up your own arguments and then asserting that they are still correct. Stupidity is continuing to uphold an argument that has been refuted. Stupidity is doing exactly what you are doing.

You really don't get it. Asserting that my points are wrong does not make them wrong. Show me why they are wrong and you have an argument. Of course, you can't do that, so you won't. I processed your post and gave you a list of objections to it. You refused to respond, just like every other time. That tells me you don't have answers to them, Nehemiah. I'm pissed off with you for one reason only; MAKING BLIND, UNFOUNDED ASSERTIONS AND REFUSING TO BACK THEM UP.

I don't care how rude you are, Nehemiah. I care how responsive you are to my arguments. Since you have refused to respond and instead ignored every point I've made showing how badly flawed your logic is, I'm irritated with you. It really doesn't matter, though, seeing as how all of my points stand about how your arguments are horrendously flawed.

I fired a submachine gun (logic) and an assault rifle (evidence) into your sheltered little worldview, and both hit your ideas dead center. Everyone around screamed that your posts had been slaughtered. So really, since I've shown everyone else the holes in your ideas, my argument with you is done.

That does not give you the right to ignore me. If you want to make people believe, show them why my arguments are wrong. Until you do, my logical arguments will always win, and you won't gain any converts.

You have the reprobate mind here, refusing to even hear me out or change your position when you are so obviously wrong. Instead, you run around being an idiot and then pretending that your arguments are somehow right even after I show holes the size of King Kong in them. You are a moron of the worst degree, and the only one getting his ass beat is YOU. I have shown time and again how every point you've attempted to make is flawed, and you have been completely unable to respond. Anyone who has read these posts knows it.

And remember:

Argument
-logic
=CRAP!​

 

Woooowwwww! "Ats" are beginning to quote Scripture. Well, its a start. And I am very impressed.

And I really do "LOVE" everyone here. . .just not in the "worldly way", because it is written:
"Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him (1John2:15)."

See, I love you enough to tell you THE TRUTH; not just what others have to, and will tell you, just to stay on your good side.

And, if you'd like to know, I'd be happy to explain to you, how the following is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH,

JESUS CHRIST
+nothing
=EVERYTHING!​

 

In what way? Seriously!

And BLESS you, as well!

 

Well, if you could put it in all Arial and all the same size and colour that would be great.

 

Although the term gluttony is defined as excessive eating and drinking, I think it refers to doing anything in excess, including RELIGION! You sin just as everyone else does.

SINNER!!

So, I have called ahead and reserved the bloody spike next to mine so when we are both in HELL, hanging from our bloody spikes, we can continue this conversation.

That is, if there is a hell...

 

I don't believe in God.

 

Do you even know what you are saying? When did Jesus show hatred to the lost? When did he pound on the sins of the lost?
Those who He hammered on where the pharisees which thought they knew God but did not even recognize the Son.
Jesus didn't go around sounding like a clanging symbol now did he?

And you call me an "ats" and I have never heard of an "ats" except that is your form of name calling someone who is agnostic, which I am not.

Sorry for responding again, but you claim to be a Christian yet are not showing fellow Christians any respect nor showing anyone ANY love with your responses. Being that I am most likely older than you in the faith you may want to heed this as a warning, as a brother in Christ, that your words are only harming your testimony. I say this with all respect and love, hoping you will understand and repent. If not I will have to say that your are a fake trying to make Christianity look bad.

 

Okay I'll try, but just think of it this way, A lot of folks would have had to conspire and lie if JESUS CHRIST, didn't live (and is alive Today).

We could start back as far as Abraham [nee: Abram] and come towards today.
If Abraham is a lie, then is are Isaac, and Ismael.
If Isaac and Ismael are both lies, then so is Esau and Jacob [later renamed Israel].
If Jacob is a lie then so is all twelve of his sons, especially Judah (from where we get the word "Jew"; and the Patriarch of Jesus' both legal and biological lineage). Joseph (especially in Egypt) would have to be a lie as well.
And allow me to skip down to David, who would have to be a lie, if Judah was a lie, because that was one of David's "great" grandfathers.
And if David is a lie, then so is Solomon and Nathan (both, sons of David); and that would make JESUS a lie because HE descended "legally" from Solomon (Joseph the stepfather of JESUS) and "biologically" from Nathan (Mary, the actual Mother of Jesus).

The "Lineage" accounts (in Matthew and Luke) are either a lie, or JESUS is the only Living Jew today that can LEGALLY Prove His "lineage";

Why and How?

Because in some courts of law, "the Bible" is accepted as a Legal and Binding Document, in the proof of a Birth. And in A. D. 71 when the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, so were all of the Jews birth records all the way back to Abraham. So all Jewish people today, have no "LEGAL" and "BINDING" proof of their lineage. . .Except JESUS CHRIST.

Now, if JESUS CHRIST Did NOT Live, and is Not Alive Today then:
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (all men of renown) all lied.
Saul of Tarsus had to have lied in no less than in 13 books of the New Testament.
All the 11 Disciple of JESUS would have had to lied, and EVEN DIED for that Lie (Because they were all tortured, and slain for "that lie"). Only John, supposedly died a natural death. . .while in Exile, for the cause of CHRIST.
Now, I ask you, who would, WILLINGLY, die for a Lie???

JESUS, after HIS Resurrection was seen by the 11 Disciples, and according to 1 Corinthians 15:6, he was seen (witnessed) by "more than 500" men (not counting women and children)...most of whom were still alive when Paul wrote First Corinthians (and no one came forward and stated otherwise).

And finally, they all (from Abraham to Paul) had to really plan this thing out to the Degree that no one, no one, no one has to this date, been able to find the remains of JESUS CHRIST (the Only Person of ANY "religion" that this can truthfully be said about).

BTW, Even JESUS enemies proved that HE LIVED, and even more Importantly, RESURRECTED. According to The Documentation, The Borrowed Tomb that JESUS was Placed in was secured by a large boulder that had been rolled downhill to the only opening to the Tomb, by those that had Crucified HIM, The Roman Government had then place an official Seal on the tomb (which meant that anybody who tampered with that Seal could and would be put to Death (Now, this is real important when you consider that, just the night before HIS Crucifixion, JESUS' Disciples had all fled from HIM and had all gone into hiding). However, and this is documented, the morning of the first day of the week (after HIS Crucifixion), the stone (boulder), that had be rolled downhill, was found to have been rolled UPHILL from the entrance to the tomb, and nobody was ever put to death for breaking that Seal. And at the risk of seeming redundant...It is All Documented (and not just in "the Bible".

As an atheist and/or agnostic, you owe it to yourself to, as Paul Harvey would say, "Get the Rest of the Story",. . .I know, because I used to be both "Ignorant" and "Stupid".

 

Or maybe they could have been real people whose stories were incredibly embellished. Those people could have all existed without the Bible's rants about God being true, which is especially possible since parts of the Bible (the flood for starters) directly conflict with physical evidence. The rest of your argument about lineage is just bullcrap, since the Jews specifically rejected Jesus’ supposed divinity. Jesus could have existed as a person without existing as a God, and this is the most probable scenario. Even then, the idea that the lineage of Jesus is somehow proven is ridiculous. There is no separate account of Jesus’ lineage at all, and the idea that the Bible can reference itself for an accurate account is moronic (and circular logic). The argument about either a massive conspiracy or God is a false dilemma, since people could easily have believed what they were saying was true without it actually being true.

Maybe they bought into the lie and believed it. This would be pretty much exactly like what Muslim suicide bombers do today, and according to you they are dying for a lie. There are martyrs from every religion, not just yours, and they don't prove any of them correct.

The Bible referencing an event that only is shown within the Bible is circular logic, Nehemiah. There is no evidence that those witnesses ever existed at all, and the Bible wouldn't report contradictory witnesses even if they existed, since it has a direct bias to prove God's existence. This evidence isn't.

This could also prove that he didn't exist, since there are no outside historical records from a similar time period referencing his existence. It could also prove that records were kept so badly that we don't know where he is buried. The absence of his body isn't going to prove that he was God, since you don't even have basic proof of His existence.

Where, outside of the Bible, is it documented? There are no historical sources referencing any of this. Your evidence is only within the Bible and therefore your argument is entirely circular and illogical. Not that this matters since it's much more likely that someone could have opened the tomb and then not been caught. Of course, if you want to argue this, other religions have 'documentation' within their texts that they are right, so you'd have to believe them all given your argument.

Unfortunately, you still are.

 

you created a monster why did you have to bring religion into DP this place is so well focused on helping eachother out not arguing over religious beliefs

 

Seriously dude, I would rather go to Hell then spend my time in Heaven listening to you go on and on.