7,000 French Jews ask USA for Asylum

Incorrect. As evidenced by your collage education, your math skills are weak.

You're comparing hate crimes against Jews in France to overall stats in the US. Watermelon to grapefruits instead of apples to apples. Not surprising.

Current estimates are that 5.5 million Jews are in the US. In 2004, according to FBI stats, there were 1076 victims of anti-Jewish hate crimes.

That's about 19 per 100,000 Jews. Less than what is taking place in France.

Can't stand those Jews, can ya gworld?

How about your country, gworld? How's the Jew bashing going on there with your presense?

Let's see:

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2003-4/canada.htm

370,000 estimated Jews in Canada. 584 incidents reported in 2003, which was a 27% increase. That's about 158 incidents per 100,000.

More importantly:

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2003-4/canada.htm

So, when comparing apples to apples, as they should be, clearly it IS safer for Jews here and clearly it IS NOT safer for Jews where you live. Which isn't surprising at all, is it gworld?

 

Israel was Israel long before Romans gave the name of Palestina. Israel was Israel long before islam was ever invented...simple to solve. Most of "Arabia" was something else before muslims got there. Most of Darfur was something else, before muslims got there. Quite the trend, eh?

 

I am correct in my comparison since you are comparing what FBI classify as hate crimes with statistics from all attacks in France.

Second, I am against all these attacks, no matter if this happens in France, USA or Canada. It is wrong and it has to be stopped. I do not use this as excuse to spread hatred and bigotry against other people while pretending to care about one group.

Racism and anti-Semitics has nothing to do with race and religion of the people who commit these crimes, the same as the violence against women is not limited to specific race, religion or social groups. This fact can easily be confirmed by looking at reports. While we have looked at attacks in France, USA and Canada and the anti-Semite opinions of many leading Republicans; we can look at Turkey which is Muslim Country:

We can also look at Argentina which is mainly Christian country:

This trend becomes even more clear when you look at Anti-Semite groups in USA who are mainly white, Ultra right Christian. There is nothing in the facts that can support your message of hatred and bigotry that you are so desperate to spread.

 

Aren't you pre-empting this thing a little too much?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

 

Hate crimes are different than random crimes. Random crimes where the assailant wants to get some money for crack and would kill his own mom if she had a couple of bucks on her. Hate crimes don't stop, they keep getting worse and worse if nothing is being done. Hatred is what makes people dangerous and as long as the french hate Jews, the world needs to keep an eye on that country.

 

the french hate the jews now?

 

they always did

 

And so far everything Muslims touch turns to shit! Quite the trend there too eh?

 

Why don't the French Jewish peoples ask for refuge in Israel? Blogmaster, I don't think it's correct to say that the French have always hated Jews. If anything, they're going to resent the mass immigration of Muslims who are causing riots and all sorts.

 

Last year I have spent 4 months in Amsterdam and the Dutch are sick of Muslims. You go into the bad areas and the red light district, and the majority of drug dealers, pimps, thieves and violent criminals are from Muslim countries like Morocco. Funny to see the level of appreciation for a well meaning country to open its doors.

 

Ah, but Drug Dealing and Pimping is only illegal due to oppressive laws. Leaglise drugs and prostitution then those crimes will be wiped over night.

 

prostitution in Holland is legal, but the Muslims make sure that the 15 year old Dutch girls get hooked on drugs and become their employees.

 

Are you going to blame Muslim for the person that you are?

 

there are people who think the same thing about neighborhoods in every major city in the US

just subsitute the "muslims" with "blacks" , "mexicans", "Ricans" etc

 

Incorrect again. Those were your numbers, trumpted as hate crimes in France against Jews. Instead of comparing them properly, with your usual hatred for the US, you compared them to all crimes in the US, which was an incorrect comparison.

I corrected that for you. And clearly we see, your message of hatred was incorrect. In fact, as usual, when you try to dishonestly make things appear worse in the US (homelessness ring a bell, unemployment ring a bell?) it seems to backfire on you every time when compared with your own country. Yet never a bad word.

All this embarrassment on your part, because of your clearly visible anti-semitism. Had this been muslims, your excuse would have been the US wasn't doing enough, but since it was about Jews, your argument has been that nothing needs to be done and it's nothing special. How much more biased could an atheist be?

 

I find it almost embarrassing to side on this w/Gtech, et al. but after visiting Paris almost 20 years ago during the Jewish New Year and spending it with a native Jewish family, the racist crap they were going through then is dramatically worse now.

Western Europe has never been a great place for Jews. (holocaust, pogroms, ghetto's, etc.) The French, as a nation, (not all individuals) have been historically weasley on this issue.

I suppose these people don't want to immigrate to Isreal, because they could do it easily. I'd say help them out and help them get over here.

 

Great insight Earl, and just another good example for how people think they know a lot without ever having had a taste of what some people go thru because of discrimination.

 

It's nice to see people want to take care of those who are threatened but than again I wonder how it is possible to see genocide in Europe in 21st century. I wonder did you all raised your voice back than like you raising now...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

 

Yes, actually, I was decrying the violence in Bosnia.

And I decry the violence against jews.

By the way. I'd like to point out a couple of things.

No sin, crime, or type of violence is the exclusive domain of just one group. All groups participate to one degree or another. However that does not mean that pointing out the rates of those crimes based on break down of race, religion, economic status, current nation, national origin, political party, or medication schemes is necessarily wrong or bigoted.

Theorizing about potential influences upon a type of violence or crime based on these statistical models is not wrong or bigoted either. Drawing a final conclusion based on an oversimplified break down, without looking at other factors, however, very well may be.

For example, it is a fact that in certain areas of the united states, statistically, certain minorities have a higher crime rate than people not of those minorities.

However many of those minorities are also the poor, disadvantaged, and disaffected. If one did a study, by tight bands of economic prosperity, normalized so that the subjects sampled had the same average wealth and prosperity, with similar statistical deviations in those bands, would members of those minorities fare any worse than people not of those minorities? I don't know. I'm not aware of any study that has even attempted to do this.