Wiki did it. Well DMOZ only seems to want to provide a human reviewed internet guide for people and they always say they do not care about search engines. So they don't have to provide backlinks either. That way there wouldn't be any point to be a dmoz editor unless you actually want to help that directory grow. Maybe editor applications would be like decrease like hell(well since promoting your own website is out of the rules, it should be okay) but no more abuse. what would you think, i'm just curious why not.
I know, no1's would be "worth" considering Google <- something DMOZ claim not to care about (search engines, ranking, PageRank etc.)
Hitting somebody when his down is not nice, it would last nail in the coffin since with exception very few die hard editors absolutely nobody would care about DMOZ anymore. Traffic DMOZ provides to websites listed is pathetic so only benefit is backlink as long as DMOZ page has high PR with nofollow even that is gone. Who said it was smart idea introducing nofollow on wiki? Good websites often lack even basic SEO so they have bad habit of being buried SERP with nofollow they'll just fall even lower. Problem with Wiki is that wasn't designed to handle external links, if it had some sort of approval process DMOZ style for external links it could kill most of spam. Wiki will be spam magnet as long as Google gives it top spot even for blank articles, so even if spammer doesn't get backlink benefit, traffic he can get from popular articles will make spamming wiki more then worth it.
Thats so true Ivan... I have done many searches on google and come up with useless info on wiki... like I said in another thread, I feel wiki had its day...
Wiki needs some big changes and unlike DMOZ they got Jimbo to keep the ship on course, not to mention things change each day and it is impossible to stay up to date, no such problems at DMOZ.
what goes around comes around, if ppl doesnt care about DMOZ as a directory, treates as a free? version of Dollarlinking, it should die anyway. If they want to establish a directory to provide people a spam-free internet guide, the only way is finding editors who has no chance benefiting from it's PR, and we can see volunteers that way. This way it's like, ok promote your own content but do something for us as well.
Oh wow , wiki on nofollow that is aweful . <a href="http://www.vojska.net/" class="external text" title="http://www.vojska.net/" rel="nofollow">Vojska.net</a> - my hobby site Is one such example of nofollow on wiki. Checked dmoz, it does not have any nofollow. aboutus.org does not use nofollow so i think thats a good place to shamelessly get a backlink for your site from.
I think with the ever growing number of directories out there Google (and others) may start giving them special (lowered) status to other linkblacks as the way I see it there is a fine line between a directory and a link farm. I'd actually not be surprised if this was already happening. I think that if they did add the nofollow tag it may be the best thing that's ever happened to the place as it would prompt changes that for sure. Either a complete and total wipe, or a long over due reconstruction. I'd prefer it did not happen, but I'd not be put off to much if it did... I'd guess I'd also be one of those diehard editors that stuck around as well Q
Who told u that they were gonaa add nofollow? But i doubt that even if they used nofollow it would effect them at all, cause most webmasters know that they like dmoz cause of free backlinks they get(not all are valid though as explained by minstrel cause of duplicate content filters). cheers
do you want DMOZ to use nofollow?? is this really you want or you want WIKI to stop using NOFOLLOW??? I think WIKI should stop using nofollow. this will help in improving the PR of many websites.
well i think DMOZ should be honest with what they do. They should either hold on their word and add a nofollow since they dont serve a PR backlink source, just a spam-free internet guide, or they should remove the commercial listings and accept them on a paid(official) basis. Beyond the general guidelines, every editor has his/her way of running things so there's no "DMOZ way". What people majorly complain is that there are too many abuses and subjectiveness due to the impossibility of audition of editors. So if they stop editors benefiting from their position and only work as volunteers as its supposed to be thats the best way to keep it as they want to. The decrease of the editor applications will give a great statistical clue about what was actually going on imo. It will decrease like hell i'm sure, and why would it decrease if they actually wanted to help improve that directory, do they care about PR of the websites(they are not related to) they add to their categories? Neh
Wiki or DMOZ have no such task as to help websites improve PR. They are not Toplists or something. Their content don't fit the definition "natural backlinks". As i stated above, editors join them for a particular purpose which we'll see how things change about applications if nofollow is added. And most of them dont even surf the web to add websites to categories, most are submitted websites so they are not natural backlinks. I am talking about the majority not the whole, and majority is what counts
Well be it wiki or dmoz , one should never rely on such sites for backlink, one should continue improving their website and aim towards traffic instead of how many backlinks they got, the more traffic u get the more backlinks you will get automatically. Mathematical formula is Backlink is directly related to Traffic ! Traffic directly proportional to Backlinks.
That is fine but then Google most kill PR bonus it has give them and treat them as any other website... I hate if when wiki editor writes article based solely on material from my website which then pushes me from number one spot because of unnatural high PR wiki has.
I don't know why they don't use nofollow. They should, if they want to be consistent with the DMOZ party line "we are not a link farm."
Well mam, how often does aol even care what users are saying? If they did first thing they should be doing is ridding dmoz of editors not worthy of dmoz. , than like you said put nofollow tag so corrupt editors get nothing , for example Ivan , he would not have made billions like he said if they only had nofollow tag.
Exactly you will be in trouble, thats my mission too, cause i heard u were planning some sort of attack against bunnies.