Schools allowed to ban face veils, BBC While schools are urged to discuss the issue with the communities they serve before implementing any school uniform policy, they are now officially able to ban the wearing of full face viels when it is of concern when it comes to identifying students vrs intruders, as well as being able to tell where a student is paying their attention.
seems reasonable...especially with cross dressing terrorists these days...besides, the school system can decide what they want...I know many private schools that require uniforms...
gotta love this quote "The chairman of the Islamic Human Rights Commission, Massoud Shadjareh, said he was "dismayed" by the DfES guidance."
Well many Muslims think of a young girl not wearing her viel the same way many Americans think of a young girl bearing her belly, wearing spagetti straps, and low rider jeans. Many parents would insist their children not wear that kind of thing to school. Imagine how those parents would feel if suddenly that kind of flesh bearing was required, so that schools could make sure students weren't hiding weapons. One of the schools I went to had a Jewish student who's parents required him to wear a shirt in the pool, and change in a bathroom stall to preserve his modesty. What if the school required men not to have any kind of a top to their swimsuit during swimming class as the shirt weighs the student down and impedes their athletic learning? I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that I can see part of that perspective.
A sensible move if you ask me. You can't integrate with your classmates and teachers if you are hidden behind a wall of fabric.
There are schools that accept veils & in the UK we do not, so they do have a choice, there is no reason we should keep bending over backwards & making new rules to allow others to do want they want in our country, whilst abroad we follow other countries laws.
I can't say I am a fan of them wearing it but at the same time I think I may even be a less of a fan of telling someone what they can't wear.
That issue is the general issue of school uniforms. The main issue here is whether, if a school institutes a general school dress policy, pieces of cultural garb related to a particular religion can be banned. For example, if they forbid garb that covers the face, is the Islamic Viel an exception. Or, if the school bans wearing jewelry, can people still wear the cross? What about the star of David? None of these is required in the holy texts of the religions (to my understanding), so I can easily see simply letting the ban stand. But what about if wearing a particular piece of clothing is required by your religion? Such as, perhaps, wearing a hat of some kind on holy days, where the scriptures specifically state you must keep your head covered.
Theres such a thing as Islamic Human Rights? I thought they raped women and never gave them the right to vote.
Rights are not given. They are endowed by something beyond man. Governments protect rights, they do not give them. Now then. Yes. Women do have rights. However in many countries they have been horribly violated. In Britain, I imagine most of the 'human rights' struggle is for the "right" to practice Islam however one wants, and not to have to be exposed to other religions, but rather to be able to require others to study and understand Islam.
I can't see anything wrong with this ruling. It's impossible to interact properly with someone if all you see are a pair of eyes. UK is a very tolerant country but it is necessary for newcomers to try and fit in - otherwise why move there.
I see no problem with a people living under Islamic law, so long as they realize that they are also under secular law, and that the secular authorities have jurisdiction over the secular world. If you kill someone, the secular authorities will investigate, arrest, and prosecute based on secular laws, not based on the religious ones. If your religious laws say that you can't let dogs in your presence, and secular laws say 'members of these professions must allow let seeing eye dogs in their businesses' then it is your responsibility to avoid those professions.
If they wanna go to English schools and recieve some of the highest level of education in the world totally free then they should stick to the rules.
It is the fact that no other student is allowed to wear a cap. Or any type of head gear Muslims/Jews should not be unaffected by this it's great they want to show support to there religion and all but the school is not a place for religion. And I am glad that they did this
And any time parents or students disagree with, or are concerned about a set of rules, they have the duty to speak up about it. For example... if a school passed a rule saying that any student who had a myspace page would be suspended unless they terminated the account. No talking about not accessing the page at school, but a rule expressly forbidding even having such a page in their spare time? If you felt that rule was wrong, don't you think you should make that concern and disagreement known? And this is hardly a what if situation, it actually has happened... though it was at a private school, where as my concern is more about if it happened at a public school.
That face veil isnt an order of the religion, its an exaggeration, i live in a Muslim country(Turkey) and we dont have that, even it's not allowed inside our schools or official places, that face veil is commonly abused for undercover purposes, so i'd say it's an appropriate decesion they made.
I think they are making a big deal over this veil thing. People should be allowed to wear what they want.
People should be allowed to do what they want to0, you might say, but this is a non muslim country & we have our rules, regulations & they have the freedom to either accept it or move on