Looking for Quaility Articles

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by TrickDaddy, Mar 25, 2007.

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    Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm looking at all of this from a different (or totally wrong) perspective, but why does it seem most people are looking for articles on specific topics?

    I see people looking for articles on mortgage, credit cards, etc... This leads me to believe that they are doing AdSense sites, or Affiliate sites, and need articles for them.

    If this is the case, wouldnt it be much more beneficial for people to find someone that has researched niche's that are not over saturated? Someone who has researched niches that have good AdSense returns, compiled some high paying keyword lists, and created unique articles based upon this?

    Again, maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong perspective (I'm a total noob), but that seems more beneficial to me, as a novice, instead of trying to find niches myself, find high paying keywords for that niche, getting articles written, and doing all of this while making sure that my selected niche is not over saturated...

    Just curious (and maybe this is a stupid question), since I'm a total noob.
    (Please accept my apologies, and flame this post, if it's not in the appropriate forum)
     
    TrickDaddy, Mar 25, 2007 IP
  2. djazz

    djazz Active Member

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    TrickDaddy, here's the thing:

    People tend to specialize in different areas. It is NOT a given that a good writer is also good at keyword/niche research - that research takes a lot of work and time, and some people have more of a knack for it than others.

    But for argument's sake, let's say I'm a good writer who's also good at niche/keyword research. If I uncover a goldmine niche, one that's got loads of potential for money-making, and on top of that I find a ton of under-utilized keywords for it that I know will bring in great traffic - then I'd be pretty crazy to write some articles for those keywords and sell them to someone else for just the price of writing the articles!

    Finding those under-utilized niches & keywords is the entire point of internet marketing. When I find them, you'd better believe I'm keeping them for myself. You can find a writer who will give you articles written for general topics, and you can even hire a writer who will give you articles optimized for the keywords you give him/her. But most good writers write. That's what they love, that's what they do.

    What you're asking for is someone who will basically do all the work for you up front. I suppose for the right price you could find that person, but more than likely they're off creating their own websites and sitting back and earning money while they're sleeping, NOT hard at work writing articles.

    Have you considered joining a site like WealthyAffiliate.com? It's extremely noob-friendly, and they really take people by the hand to teach them how to research niches and find keywords. At some point, you're just going to have to bite the bullet. :)
     
    djazz, Mar 25, 2007 IP
  3. TrickDaddy

    TrickDaddy Guest

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    djazz, thanks for the sage advice, I hear yea on this one. I'm asking for to much, indeed.

    Your description:

    ...sounds spot on. It just seems to me that there are a lot of new people out there learning the ropes with this stuff. It also appears that there are many different disciplines that one must master in order to get it right.

    It appears that one of the disciplines, content writing (or copywriting) can be found here and purchased for a reasonable price by what I can gather as talented people. This aspect is also one of the time consuming pieces of the bigger puzzle.

    What's missing, or what I have failed to find as a service of some sort, is what you've described as far as keyword research and a niche goes.

    From what your saying, finding the right keywords and the right niche is not something that most are willing to share, or even be hired to do. If they do this work and find something hot, why would they share it for the simple fee your paying them? They could just jump on it themselves.

    Does this sound about right?

    If so, then should one be suspicious of a service that offers this? If one finds a person, or company, who is willing to offer this keyword/niche research, should one look at this offer with a skeptical eye? Or is this just an incorrect, and maybe even paranoid, view?
     
    TrickDaddy, Mar 26, 2007 IP
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    You have the right mindset TrickDaddy, stay with that! :)
     
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    Yes, be very suspicious of anyone who offers you that kind of research. Even if someone who can do the research doesn't want to actually develop the site, that person would do a simple generic sort of site or do some sort of individual partnership or joint venture, not sell the research.
     
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    The content is not always for PPC websites.

    A website marketer may create niche websites so that he can sell links/ advertising space on those websites to companies who wish to increase their rankings on the search engines.

    I can think of a few other reasons but this would make up a considerable argument for wanting to create a website in a niche where the market is very saturated.
     
    Weirfire, Mar 26, 2007 IP
  7. djazz

    djazz Active Member

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    Yes, there are indeed many new people out there trying to learn this stuff, but if it were as easy as you'd like it to be (and you're certainly not alone there!) then it wouldn't be nearly as lucrative, either. The internet truly is The Great Equalizer - we all begin in more or less the same place, and those willing to do the work of learning the ins & outs have the most chance for success.

    As far as needing to master many different disciplines, yes and no. No one can be an expert at everything, otherwise I'd be a great programmer, LOL. You do need to have a general knowledge of how it all fits together, and to learn enough to get started, sure. But I think the most successful internet marketers are the ones who know their weaknesses and see the cost-effectiveness of outsourcing as soon as they're able.

    Weirfire brought up a very good point, that there are actually several reasons why you wouldn't necessarily want to target only obscure niches, depending on your goals (I'm afraid I'm guilty of a little tunnel vision, thanks for the reminder, lol). And SOME people even want to sell physical products on the net, what a concept! :D

    After spending thousands of dollars and learning everything the 'hard' way, I always encourage newbies to find a good newbie-friendly website to get started with. The entry rate is extremely low compared to what you'll waste giving your money to people who want to cash in on your hunger to learn, and the learning curve on all this stuff can be sooooo long if you don't have a good mentor. In hindsight, that's what I would do if I were just starting out. :)
     
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  8. Thomas J.

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    You maybe not as novice as your suspicions are correct. Many people simply build sites -especially blogs- and add articles to appear increasingly legitimate although they are actually not concerned with the content as much as the revenue from high paying keywords in the Adsense program.
     
    Thomas J., Mar 28, 2007 IP
  9. stilloutthere

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    Good point. There is a 'made for link sales' world out there in addition to the 'made for adsense' world.
     
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    yeah quality sites with original articles usually do better in the long run.

    you can hire writers pretty cheap on RentaCoder to get original articles.

    if you spend some time thinking of 10 topics for 10 good articles and hiring them out I think that is better than swiping free articles.

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    Original articles are the best way to improve a site.
    There are always writers out there who are able to write your unique articles with the key words that you are after. Its just a matter of knowing where to look, and what to ask for.......
     
    articleprincess, Apr 5, 2007 IP
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    STEAL someone elses and use article splasher to rearrange the words. i use that and it make me a KILLING using article marketing
     
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    Hi,

    Do you know what you are saying?

    Have some ethics.

    Regards,
    Ronak.
     
    downloadfreak, Apr 6, 2007 IP