Do you believe in God?

Yeah, nobody seems to be able to answer that question...it's been lingering on since page 1 of the thread All they have come up with so far is wishful attempts-at-justifications.

 

Nothing created God. That's why he/she is God. Does that make sense??

 

No. It doesn't make sense.

The very basis on which theists claim god exists is creation. The assumption that everything needs to be created. So, so does god. You (theists) can't shouldn't just conveniently exclude and ignore this crucial contradiction.

 

Not really.

 

The evolutionary model is riddled with problems as well. As I've said, it all just curve-fitting the data to "prove" whatever you've already chosen to believe.

 

Oh, and yes, I am a Trinitarian (to answer the question asked at the very start of this thread).

 

I think the title should be re written: Do God believe in you?

 

I like it!

 

People fear what they do not understand which i show we got here, why aren't there more races around on other planets. These are the fears that created god..Beyond the fact that GOD was the first form of government and was built as a way to control the people..

 

no disrespect intended, but this is total BS

 

You assume this to be true.

Prove it (hint: you can't)

 

Actually I can just look back at history. It shows that CHURCH was the first form of government. ...Now prove there is a god? That is something you cannot do

 

Actually no body can prove that there is a God but only God himself. At least your on the right track just keep asking and searching than someday you will get the answer.

 

Exactly. God can neither be proven or disproven. (Re: history, that's your interpretation )

Belief in God or no belief in God is an assumption (an axiom). You start there and then build your entire belief structure off of it (curve-fitting the data).

 

Well put!

 

"The evolutionary model is riddled with problems as well. As I've said, it all just curve-fitting the data to "prove" whatever you've already chosen to believe."

EVOLUTION DOESN'T EXPLAIN HOW THE EARTH STARTED. Say it with me. Your total lack of understanding is why you believe that a magic wizard came down from the sky and started making animals. I love when theists say evolution isn't fact, because it is. PROVEN FACT. Y O U A R E W R O N G.

 

Evolution is proven fact? Interesting. Care to back that one up with some sources?

 

I have to be your little Google bitch because you were reading the bible during science class?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

 

It's a shame...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory#Science

 

From your link:

Yup, and that's why the theory of gravity is just that; a theory. I don't see fundies saying gravity is fake, I wonder why...