What's Your Opinion on Our FIRST Woman/Black President?

2008-1988 is 20 years. At least learn math if you want to continue this discussion with me.

Second, names don't mean a whole lot. Bush I and Bush II have different policies. You make it sound like they are the same person. Bush I was much of an internationalist than Bush II. Bush I loved the UN. Bush II, not so much and his father even disagrees with him on this.

You making an illogical leap that - if they have the same family name, they robotically believe the same thing. Which isn't very accurate.

Hey. Whatever helps you justify your hate of a group of people. Mate.

 

Don't you think it is a bit odd that of all the people in a country of over 250 million, George W. Bush was chosen to become president just a few years after his father? And now we have Hillary running, and people are saying they want her, when her husband was already president?

I just get this feeling that the whole thing is staged. I love how the media focuses on Barack and Hillary. The Republican party doesn't have a chance, because they have dominated for two terms, and Americans are tired of them. I firmly believe it will come down to Barack and Hillary, and Hillary will win. John McCain won't get it, and neither will Giuliani or Jeb Bush, especially Jeb since people are tired of the Bushes.

The election will be staged. Americans currently hate Bush and the Red Team as a whole, so just like the Democrats took over the Senate, they will get in the White House in 2008. No matter who gets in, I assure you it will probably be a Democrat . Here is the thing though:

When the democrats get in office, they will continue the policies of Bush. Everything will go on as planned. The NWO owns all the horses in the race. No matter who wins, their agenda goes forward.

For all you saying you want Hillary, she has already said she will continue an aggressive policy against Iran. Is she any different than Bush?

One more thing. For all of you who want John McCain in office, he has said he wants to shut down the Blogosphere and charge bloggers hundreds of thousands of dollars who insult the government. Do you really want him in office? http://www.theorator.com/bills109/s2128.html

 

I know my maths darling.

The 26 years I am referring to are from 1981 when Reagan came into power with Pappy Bush as Vice President.

So 1981 - 2007 = 26 years. Read my posts mate for a change lol.

Whatever way you look at it you have had a minimum of 18 years under either a Bush or a Clinton. And you can add at least another 5 years to that (1 year of the Chumps remaining tenure then a minimum of 4 years with Hillary Clinton.)

So that's an absolute minimum of 23 years of a Bush or Clinton, or almost One Quarter Of A Century.

God help us all.

 

If you knew -anything- about US history; linking Reagan's presidency with Bush I's is a travesty. They were not the same people at all. You can moan about Bush I-present all you want, but Reagan is not in there. Bush I's initial term was simply Reagan's third term, since everyone loved him at the time. So, it really can be said that Bush I didn't even win an election on his own. So your premise has more than 1 fault to it. But I guess the illuminati didn't inform you of that.

 

Well actually Reagan was the looks of the outfit but it was Pappy Bush that was the real daddy of Reagan's tenure mate. Reagan (a lot like your hero Dubya) was not at all very bright.

That is why H.W was the real President from 1981 to 1989 even though Ronny was the actual President.

Face it buddy, it's either a Bush or a Clinton and unless Jeb or Marvin are going to stand then you Republicans ain't got a hope in hell.

 

You are a maroon AGS. Too funny. You simplify post stupid shit to justify what you believe when it doesn't even make sense.

 

Are you sure we don't vote? Are you sure the illuminati do it?

 

Well, yeah, the people vote, but all the choices offered to them have been hand picked........so no matter who gets in, they will push the same Globalist policy. Ron Paul is different, and this is why he probably won't get it, even though there is a possibility he will.

The Internet gives guys like Ron Paul a strong chance, even if they don't have exposure in the mass corporate media. I will vote for him.

 

the people vote in primaries. ron paul has an equal chance to get on ballots. to get people to support him and make it to the general election. where does this "hand picking" happen?

 

The reason why I commented earlier is I am going to nominate

AGS

A dark horse, no hoper, but what the heck, and from another party I am going to propose as his running mate GTech

 

You mark your uncle AGS's words mate.

It's oh so simple when you actually think about it.

The big question is who is going to stand for the Republicans, I think it'll be Gooleyani. Not that it matters, the Republicans have lost already.

 

While anyone can run for President of the U.S. as long as they meet the basic requirements , by hand picking I'm referring to those that get the most media exposure. Everyone knows about Hillary and Barack, but how many have heard of Ron Paul?

The Illuminati doesn't literally "pick" the President, because it would be obvious to the people. But the organizations they operate (the mass media) can give more exposure to candidate that are their puppets. The people, who as a whole get their info from the mass media, will be manipulated into only looking at a handful of choices, when there are a lot of lesser known candidates available who can truly change things.

The candidates with the most media exposure are generally the ones that will win. To pull the strings, all you have to do is pay for a handful of candidates to get a lot of exposure, and have them all support your agenda. That way, they are just competing to do your bidding, and no matter who wins, you get what you want. Candidate with little media exposure like Ron Paul will not have a chance, because the people won't get a chance to see them.

 

Wooters!

Cheers buddy, not too sure about having GTech as my running mate though.

 

AGS would disagree with you. He says the illuminati have already chosen Hillary. Which illuminati conspiracy is the correct one?

so the media are in on the illuminati conspiracy too? and everyone who works for the media and everyone who works for them? that's a mighty big conspiracy here. paul is, at best, a 2nd teir candidate. They do not get a lot of coverage, by nature. The people who win the presidency, are - as you said - those that raise the most money. Hillary and Obama are raising all the cash on the D side, so they get the coverage. Paul is a republican, right? If he cannot get money on the R side, its because he's not a top teir candidate - Guiliani and McCain (sadly) are the top teir at the moment. the media covers them because they are the most likely winners. its not a conspiracy, its common sense. But; no one stops anyone from voting for Paul. If your argument is that Paul can't win because the media won't cover him; well thats the fault of voters isn't it? Its not a conspiracy, its a lack of voter participation. No illuminati, just voter choice.

 

Very true.

In fact back in the 1980's in my country the newspaper called The Sun (a disgraceful paper but good to read if you are bored on the crapper) actually managed to win the Conservative party at least one general election such was its circulation (over 3.5 million copies a day at the time, far outselling all of the other newspapers combined.)

No surprise as to the owner lol, our very own Aussie turned American citizen Illuminati man Mr Rupert Murdoch.

And then, in the 1990's when Murdoch could see that the Torys were in the sh*t and basically unelectable then the paper switched it's allegiance to (ostensibly) neutral but it was already swinging over towards the Labour Party.

Labour came into power in 1996 and the rest as they say, is history.

It will be interesting to see if The Sun swings back towards the Conservatives in the near future before our next election because you can be pretty sure that whatever party Murdochs Sun supports will be next in, such is the influence of the media.

 

What I mean is, these people hide in the shadows, so it won't be obvious to the general public that they are pushing for a certain person to get in. Technically, they do, but the public is given the "illusion" of choice.

John McCain and Giuliani are no better than Hillary, and they are both manipulated. All the major candidates are. You must understand that the election must appear to be competitive. These people are too smart to just put Hillary in, because people will catch on.

This whole thing is hard to explain............these people, the Illuminati, are EXTREMELY intelligent. Do you think it is a coincidence that Hillary is running with tv shows like Commander in Chief, which star Gina Davis, the first woman president?

Do you think that it is a coincidence that Barack Obama is running at a time when 24, one of the most popular tv shows in the U.S., shows a Black President?

It is not a coincidence. The public is being gradually conditioned to accept a woman president. The election will put in Hillary, but it must appear competitive. Since the Illuminati controls the mass media, they control what the public sees in terms of the candidates, and they can determine who will win.

I would like to say that even if Hillary does not win, whoever does win will likely be a puppet. If a miracle happens, and Ron Paul gets in, this will be a problem for these people. But I don't think he will.

 

so AGS says the illuminiati have already guaranteed Hillary the presidency; you say the illuminati are too smart to put her in? It's all very funny. Whose illuminati are the right ones and who are the posers?

Heh. So, a show that's been running for like 5 years, has all been designed to put a black president in power? If anything, the show speaks against a black president. Every season, a city is gonna get blowed up, a nuke decimates a city, and the country never seems to retaliate. If anything, it does not look kindly on a black president, does it? LOL

Your whole comment here suggests that women shouldn't be president. I know you seem to view women as possessions, but come on now. If a woman is the best candidate, doesn't she deserve to win?

Seriously Tesla, do you think about this at all? You aren't even making any rational points here. Maybe you should have someone speak what you write sometimes, maybe you'll realize how weird it is.

 

It's all a sham and like I said has been decided already.

The only thing that would stop Hillary getting in would be if she died before the election, and that is highly unlikely.

Get prepared for at least 8 years of Hillary. As you are such a staunch Republican it is going to drive you mad.

Still, I'm going to have loads of fun with you when Hillary is announced as the winner. You may even want to put me on ignore then.

 

Unless it's an outsider, it doesn't matter who gets elected. They have all been in this corrupt system long enough for the powers that be to know how they will behave.

 

You took my post out of context. What I was saying is that the Illuminati is "too smart to make it obvious that they are putting Hillary into the White House. They rely on secrecy, and making it obvious that the election is rigged will cause a backlash.

The Black Presidents in 24 have always been considered heroes, including Wayne Palmer in the current season. Terrorist attacks happen all throughout the season, even under White Presidents, that is just a part of the show.

However, the show makes the idea of a Black president not seem so strange to the public. If you want to use that argument, you could say that 24 makes all the presidents look incompetent.

Even if I do view women as being objects, this does not mean that I don't think a woman should become president. I just think that Shows like Commander in Chief, like 24, make the idea of a woman president more reasonable on a public that might not normally accept it. I never implied it was a bad thing.

I agree, and the outsider is Ron Paul. Unfortunately, the public is brainwashed, and since the major candidates get all the exposure, one of them will win.