Exactly. So stop parroting other people's thoughts and research a little. The answers you seek are not hard to find.
I'll believe what I believe...so I am staying out of this...no benefit from this at all...people will stay ignorant...no matter what...instead of finding answers for themselves, No, they don't do that...they just listen to what people tell them instead of looking it up themselves!
Yes Pizzaman, those cell phone records are all faked. Those relatives WHO GOT THE PHONE CALLS FROM THE PLANE are lying to us all and their loved ones are not actually dead. It's all part of that vast right wing conspiracy. The great cell phone conspiracy. Thank goodness for Pizzaman to point that one out. I was almost fooled by grieving relatives whose loved ones never made it home after getting on Flight 93. Maybe they just thought they had gotten a phone call. Yeah that's it. They were probably drugged by the government...
Much of what happened on the plane has been reconstructed from the many phone calls made by passengers and crew, mainly through onboard GTE airphones. Beginning at approximately 9:32 a.m., 50 minutes after the flight took off, passengers and crew began making phone calls.[4] This was approximately the same time that Jarrah began making announcements to the passengers, "Ladies and Gentlemen: Hear the captain, please sit down keep remaining sitting. We have a bomb on board. So, sit."[4] The hijackers were aware that passengers were making phone calls, but did not seem to care.[4] Only two phone calls, one by Edward Felt and one by flight attendant CeeCee Lyles, came from cell phones — both at 9:58 a.m, shortly before the plane crashed.[12] At this point, the aircraft was ~5,000 feet above sea level. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93
I don't know, but lets assume that you have to pay for air phones and that no billing records was available. So what? the records could have burned up or at that traumatic movement, people could have used it without paying. But it would be interesting to see if any air business offers people to use their air phones for money. Can you describe what made you to believe that it was an inside job and how it was done? Was WTC7 a controlled demolition? how did they put the bombs in the building? Was pentagon hit by a missile? etc etc
Latehorn - have you thought about this? I read this on another blog and it actually makes quite a bit of sense. Let's assume, for a second, that WTC 7 went down in a controlled explosion. Right? Why would the government do that? If one of your goals, as the evil genius, is to take down WTC7, why wouldn't you just hijaak a 5th plane and do it with the same as all the others? The WTC towers - plane. Pentagon - plane. Why would you take down wtc7 with explosives? If I were planning this, I'd obviously attempt to take out WTC7 with a plane instead. Keep the theme going. Why make 1 building stand apart from all the others. And -if you come back and say- flight 93 was the WTC7 plane. And it went down to soon. So explosives were necessary. How do you get that much explosives into the building so quickly? Were they planning for failure? The other towers didn't have explosives in there. Were they more certain that the WTC7 mission would fail? It's a major discongruity, isn't it?
^Exactly but truthers think in the opposite direction. WTC7 was a CD because no plane flew in it. The last thing I would do was to include weird anomalies, because then I would not only get problem with truthers, but with real experts. But I would start with a few months of frequent car/buss bombs, then end it with the WTC. No CD, because demolition experts would immidialetly expose the truth then. Just real agents placing out bombs and putting out false evidence such as fingerprints of Al Qaeda members. But it would still be very hard to do, without anything getting leaked out. Perhaps co operating with Al Qaeda, but that might also get leaked out if a third part spies on the communication. However, isn't anyone wondering why no WMD(with the right standards) have popped up in Iraq? Wouldn't that be easier to do than some 9/11 inside job?
A -TON- easier. As the invading army with limited media available, it'd be a piece of cake to just put stuff somewhere and say "well lookie here!" I'm of the mind that they have been found though, not the ones that people were looking for, though. Figure this. Let's take knowns. Known - Iraq had a nuclear program. Israel destroyed it, right? Known - Iraq also had nuclear material. This is known. IAEA was inspecting the materials and has a catalog of it as well. No debate here. I'm not sure of its quality, but either way. If the Iraq leadership sold some of that material to any moron would could make a bomb; its a dirty bomb. It'd irradiate a block, 2 blocks for hundreds of years or more. I don't get into the whole WMD debate, but that's my stance there. That's really outside the 9/11 bit though, but that thought above is very interesting, if nothing else. The "factual evidence" has gotten boring for me, so the logical fallacies might be where the real action is heh.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change+recut ^ it explains everything...if you have some time go ahead and check it out
thanks for the explanation what i was trying to get at here is that the billing record of the cell calls would allow a quick check of where those calls were initiated from and would put this question to rest.
I've already seen it for more than a year ago. It includes a lot of claims, nice graphics, a cool soundtrack, but proves nothing. Even Godzilla beats it, when it comes to accuracy, facts and logic. You might want to see Screw Loose Change if you're interested in the truth(not the trooth).
I thought this might interest you, since you were looking for official information regarding the cellphone calls. What you can do is to check it up, investigate and see if it can answer your questions. But as I showed you, since your sometimes able to make cellphone calls even at 30.000 feets, I don't think you will find any evidence that a cellphone call couldn't take place. Of course, you can still say, well the victims family's were lying or that these calls were manufactured. But with no evidence to back it up, that statement wont be worth anything. Especially, since it's far from being the simplest explanation. But research it if you want and come back if you find anything you want to bring up.
are we still on this whole cell phone thing? I thought this had already been debunked about a hundred times...
pizzaman just wanted to know when and were the calls took place.. and he wanted an official source, so I gave him the telephone calls evidence from the Moussaoui trial.
I am still at a loss to understand why 1. President Bush flew his arab associates out of the country when all private flights were grounded. Also why several domestic politicians were advised not to fly on the day of the attack. 2. Saudi Arabia (by all accounts) is the primary recruitment ground for Al Queda, and yet President Bush maintains very close personal ties with his royal friends there and there has been no War on Terror against the Muslim Holy Land. 3. Why was a construction company owned by the Bin Laden family (Bin Laden group) selected to play a major role in the re-building of Iraq? I'm not saying the Americans committed 9/11. But I would say that there are a lot of questions regarding negligence and conflict of interest that should put some members of the American government under intense scrutiny. Everyone is so busy in Iraq and Afghanistan that these questions, such as how 2 of the terrorist pilots were CIA known Al Queda members, and yet no one shared that information with the FBI while they were training in California, leaves a lot of people not buying into the official statements scratching their heads. The terrorists are evil. They must be stopped. I'm just not sure that the people who are in charge of getting them stopped have the correct financial and political motivations to achieve that goal. Meanwhile, more innocent people die and suffer daily.