Do you believe in God?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ephemeral, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #301
    True, there is little proof for the existence of God. However, there is equally little proof for the non-existence of God.

    Your presuppositions will make one or the other seem obviously right. However, you are just "curve-fitting" the data.

    P.S. It is impossible to be truly objective by our very natures. :)
     
    npennington, Mar 18, 2007 IP
  2. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #302
    True. However, you are missing the other half.

    You can't scientifically DISprove it. In fact what proves science? Why is it accepted that what can be seen and measured is all that exists (or that it explains everything)?

    If you accept that, you are assuming it to be true. Vice versa as well.
     
    npennington, Mar 18, 2007 IP
  3. chotiwat_w

    chotiwat_w Peon

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    #303
    Yes. I believe in God (The Father, The Son And The Holy Spirit),
    And He loves me forever. I am a Catholic in Thailand. :)
     
    chotiwat_w, Mar 18, 2007 IP
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    #304
    I believe in a divine creator, not necessarily human in nature.
     
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  5. Rub3X

    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    #305
    Nor is there any evidence that there isn't a flying spaghetti monster. So why don't you believe in that?
     
    Rub3X, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  6. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #306
    If there isn't any evidence against it, why don't you believe in it? After all, you brought it up. :)
     
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    #307
    Let me guess... because there isn't evidence for it?:rolleyes:
     
    eXe, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  8. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #308
    Good point! :D The question was pointless. :) We don't believe in anything (including the existence of God OR the non-existence of God) because of logic, evidence, and proof.

    However, we attempt to justify our assumptions with the afore mentioned.
     
    npennington, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  9. Rub3X

    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    #309
    Saying you believe in something because there is no evidence that proves it to be false is so logically flawed. My head just exploded thinking about the poor people who believe in things, because they can't be proven false.
     
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  10. Ephemeral

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    #310
    My thought exactly. /APPLAUD.

    Then again, you don't believe in God, and there is no evidence that suggests God doesn't exist.

    So isn't your belief unfounded as well?

    (I just committed a logical fallacy there, if you didn't notice.)
     
    Ephemeral, Mar 22, 2007 IP
  11. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #311
    Actually you missed my point. Let me try to restate it. My point was not to believe in something because there wasn't proof against it. That's ridiculous!

    My point is ANYTHING that you believe in at this level (for example, how this earth came into existence, or is there a God), is unprovable. It's an assumption. It's an axiom. In other words, it's a starting assumption. From it, you derive your world view.

    However, to dismiss God's existence because you can't prove it, is like saying apple pie tastes bad when you never tried it. :)
     
    npennington, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  12. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #312
    Logic asside for just a moment. ;) . . .

    Unfounded belief is the very essence of everything here, and my entire point has been that all beliefs (of this nature, see my post above) are such. Sure we can find cooberating evidence for our beliefs, but so can the other side.

    Hmm.

    You see, we just "curve-fit" the data to fit our preconceived ideas.
     
    npennington, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  13. Rub3X

    Rub3X Well-Known Member

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    #313
    I think that's the motto for all theists. By the way it's aside.
     
    Rub3X, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  14. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #314
    Interesting interjection. However, what you fail to realize is that non-theists run in circles saying that their logic proves their logic.

    I still maintain that this is a question of axioms (i.e. things that can't be proven).
     
    npennington, Mar 23, 2007 IP
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    #315
    apple pie tastes good ... God doesnt make sense. And religion makes a whole lot of people say apple pie tastes bad, without ever tasting it.
     
    pj1s, Mar 23, 2007 IP
  16. npennington

    npennington Well-Known Member

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    #316
    http://space.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18524911.600

    A lot of things don't make sense. So what? :D
     
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    #317
    Something had to create the universe. Evolution starting from nothing is ridiculous imo. I believe in God.
     
    TheDrew831, Mar 24, 2007 IP
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    chotiwat_w Peon

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    #318
    I believe that God is real. Jesus is The Son Of God. He is my Savior.
     
    chotiwat_w, Mar 24, 2007 IP
  19. Rub3X

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    #319
    "Something had to create the universe. Evolution starting from nothing is ridiculous imo. I believe in God."

    Then what created god, genius.
     
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    #320
    I believe in that...That is my g0d how dare you mock him!!!

    LOL.
     
    Stealer, Mar 24, 2007 IP