Huh? who attacked? BTW, you see I have given him the benefit of the doubt yet he could not sure anything that proved his claim using the koran. go figure.
yes i saw how you responded and that is why i chose to reply to you lets step back a bit and see what is happening in these forum again and again put yourself in the position of a muslem webmaster you are educated and moderate in your religious views. you are browsing the forum and you come tp p&r section you see this tread and come over and say"i do not think a muslem should do these things i don't think these people are real muslems" now this is exactly the idea most of us want to promote and we want the moslem moderates say just that isn't it? guess what gtech comes around and say oh no not that fast islam say you have to kill the kafir and the jews and so on you know his lines now this is exactly what the alqada wants to be said isn't it then you say "no not really islam tells me i should live in peace and don't harm any one again a positive attitude that would be what most people want to be promoted now some one else comes along and says hey look you are not telling the truth here it says you should be killing us again a counter productive argument isn't it this continues for a while and finally you say to yourself why should i say this things when i only get a grief from these people. and guess what another 20 or 30 young people are also going to read this debate and will say the hell with it it doesn't matter what i say these people are only islam bashing and we silenced a few of the moderates. do you see what is happening?
I somewhat understand your position except that I have read a few sections of the koran that spoke otherwise. That is where I have an issue is there are even parts telling you, the believer in the koran, to lie to, steal from or kill those who don't believe. Now I don't remember exactly where, but maybe you can explain how that works? I know that those who want to bash Christians try to change the meaning of many verses in the Bible or have no clue to who those verses where written for. IE. commands to the Jewish people (or prior to being called Jews) that are during wars. So, you should be able to explain any violent passage right? So far no one has, and those commands in the koran are spread out seamingly commands to all who "believe" in the koran.
Why not pretend they are Jews? Then you'd have no problem with being aware of actions that are taking place around the world in the name of muslims. In fact, we just went through that a few days ago. So eager to blame Jews for everything, you even constructed a post to seek *any* blame for them. Twice in the past few days, I've pointed out your hypocrisy. Doube standards. When it's muslims chopping heads or "how many Jews did mama kill?," sweep it under the rug
why only two people, why not three??? It's not our fault the guy is having a serious religious identity problem....I'm sure gworld posted something to the effect of "alert: mad dog barking", but then again, I'm ignoring his "never on topic but always stupid" posts...
religion is nothing but a blind faith all religions are full of contradictions and that is why there are so many divisions in every religion but we are not trying to validate islam or become muslems. we are trying to get more and more of muslems to speak out against their militants so we have to promote the voices that speak out against them. if they point to a verse that say here it say we should not do these thing we should always bring out that point since it is what we think it should be promoted. we should try to contradict the militants and ask the moderate muslems to help us doing that. not the other way around i think this approach is more logical and productive and more in line with the spirit of Christianity.
i don't see why you think everyone should support every thing that IDF does. in that case we were talking about them using palastanian children as human shield and if you have read the article you would have seen that they used the kids in a house to house search for militants. furthermore you would have seen that has been going on for years and IDF itself has issued a warning against the practice. any person with a bit of dignity and humanity would object to these actions as many israeli do so i don't see why you think i shouldn't
There was no shield from anything. It was made up and you perpetuated it. Your comments in this thread, when compare to your comments in *that* thread show a level of hypocrisy that few could openly top. Even more surprising, after 9 attempts, you didn't have a bad word to say about hezbollah actually using human shields. Not a peep. Perhaps you should take some time off and formulate a less blatanly obvious set of double standards?
i am not trying to satisfy your warped sense of right and wrong you can go back and read the tread again if you like. i made my position very clear you can open a new tread regarding hezbolah if you want to talk about that
I know. You are helping me expose your hypocrisy and for the most part, are doing most of the work yourself Can I get double standards on my pizza?
Pizzaman mate, there really is no point in replying to GTech's posts. He is the most narrow minded of *them*. The others at least reply related stuff and productively debate, whereas GTech loves to get out his pictures and refer to deaths, beheadings and hypocrisy (despite never really expaining why..) when he doesn't have anything to say
You seem to not know what has been happening for many years. Take a look here at some of the connections.