Muslims trying to take over the UK!!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by blakeyuk, Jan 22, 2007.

  1. ProgMania

    ProgMania Active Member

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    #621
    I wont call a Muslim a terrorist, anyways..
    Everyone will be judged at judgement day.. So I cant judge other humans.. I will let Allah decide the judgement for Muhammed.. I cant do that. :)
     
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    Thanks for supporting.. I will suggest like BRum did.. Read the other posts :D
     
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    #623
    Is this particular verse abrogated?

    Also, recently someone posted a link to a study on Islamic philosophy stating that if two verses from the koran seem in conflict, both are still correct.

    So if there is a verse in the Koran or sura that states that given x, y, and z, you must (or may) kill persons a, b, and c, isn't that also correct?
     
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    #624
    what percentage of people have it all wrong then? I am seeing large numbers murdering in the name of allah proclaiming islam and very few publicly denouncing the activities who also proclaim islam. To top off the numerous verses in the koran the commands that the kaffir be killed, harmed or at least lied to. (some verses mention people of the book which I am told represent Christians and Jews, while others say quite the opposite.)
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  6. ProgMania

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    #626
    In the Quran it says A muslim Cannot kill another muslim.. When 9/11 happened muslims died.. So if OSama bin laden says he is a muslim he is wrong.. Because if he follows the Quran he cant kill other Muslims.. But he did.. That means OSAMA BIN LADEN CANT BE A MUSLIM! :)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #627
    Oh, good grief! Not this shit again :rolleyes:
     
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    #628
    sorry prog, poor logic there...face it, osama is a muslim...you may not think he is, but he thinks he is....for example...John McCain thinks he is a republican, but he often votes on the liberal side of things...I think he is a democrat, but to him, he is a republican...
     
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    #629
    Well I dont give a shit for what Osama thinks.. Who does anyway? If we go politic about this subject.. Osama bin laden is one of Bushs best friends? :) What does that explain? And Osama is just a retard. He cant be a muslim. In his psycho head he thinks.. and unfortunately you guys also think that just because you are too naive to admit that osama aint a muslim..
     
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    #630
    GTech, out of curiosity. In which state in America do you live?
     
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    #631

    so thats why he invokes allah's name during all those video's he sends out, because he is "not" a muslim? Thats why he calls for jihad, which is a muslim word (interesting enough jihad is actually used better to describe the war inside of someone, love how the media got that one wrong)? All because he is not a muslim....hmm...really makes me wonder why shiitte's and sunni's are blowing each other up in Iraq...are they also not muslim??
     
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    I just say Real muslims doesnt blow each other up..
     
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    #633
    as opposed to fake ones? how does one tell the difference if they worship the same God, the same book, and the same teachings from a prophet?
     
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    #634
    Dude read the other posts.. Im tired of telling the same thing again and again.. Dont be stubborn and open your eyes dude..
     
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    #635
    I've read your posts, my eyes, are open...these guys are muslims. Why is this so hard to understand? Maybe because YOU see things differently than they do? That still doesn't change the fact they are muslims.
     
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    #636
    nah you dont get it anyways.. I know what I know.. May Allah help you and the incredulous.. I dont need to judge anything.. Let Allah do it. I just need to think of myself in the first place.. that was my words :) Roger and out
     
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    #637
    glad we agree to disagree....and I think your quote sums it up....
     
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    #638
    If want you are saying is true about real muslims and those who are not, then you need to speak up against what is happening and also encourage other muslims to do the same. Until there is a majority speaking against those actions, those actions are doing the speaking of the majority.

    I can understand that there can be those who are following the book and those who don't but still call themselves muslims, since Christians have the same issue to a much smaller extent. There are a few people calling themselves Christian but do nothing Christ-like. BUT actions speak louder than words AND "they will know you by your fruit." (fruit being the outward results of the inward man)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #639
    Some of us know what you know too ;)

    We know what is taught in the mosques and what is said at press conferences. We know what the quran and hadiths say, we know about "dirty kafirs" and Jews hiding behind trees, come and kill him. We know about kitman. We know about al-taqiyya.

    We know about "How many Jews did mama kill?"

    We know...
     
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    #640
    well everytime that one comes here and says something he gets attacked by you guys
    i wonder why you don't see this pattern
     
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