Islamic LAW?

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #81
    Agreed, just waiting for the usual card to be played :)
     
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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #82
    Just because you are not capable of understanding it, it doesn't mean it is wrong. :rolleyes: ;)
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #83
    See last post. Apply your own standard of "not capable of understanding it"

    Never a bad word...
     
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  4. nokiaking

    nokiaking Peon

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    #84
    Is that part of the Quran then? :rolleyes:
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #85
    right on cue...
     
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  6. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #86
    I let stupid people use the bad words, I prefer to keep myself to the facts. I can argue why death penalty is wrong without using lies. Using bad words or lies as you do, will only make you look foolish when other people can point to inconsistency in your arguments. :rolleyes:
     
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  7. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #87
    What is your objection?

    1) Are you against death penalty?

    Or

    2) Are you against the method, so you will be OK with firing squad instead of stoning?

    OR

    3) Are you against death penalty for adultery but you agree with it for other crimes?
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #88
    as represented in your tirades against Christians, Jews, Israel, America and dmoz. At least you admit it.

    Still has nothing to do with the subject at hand, or that you were incorrect.

    http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP38902
    Obviously he didn't get the memo.
     
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  9. nokiaking

    nokiaking Peon

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    #89
    In Islam, Muslims, are instructed to follow Quran for It "was sent to verify that which was sent before..."

    The Quran was sent "to VERIFY THAT WHICH WAS SENT BEFORE", meaning It "rights" the previous Scriptures.

    The Quran states that it "is a book fully detailed", so nothing was left out. If Muslims claim that Allah Knows Best, we must accept His Words and Instruction. Now, you may say that The Quran also states that we must follow The Prophet Muhammad, and hadith gives us the example of how to do so, thus we have to follow the hadith. I say thus: if The Quran was given to Muhammed as an example for all of mankind, and Muhammad was ordered to both recite and follow The Quran, and The quran is complete within itself, by following The Quran we ARE following the Sunnah of Muhammad (PBUH)! You cannot separate the two.

    Prophet Muhammad himself NEVER left any other writings or teachings, and he NEVER attributed his knowledge to Himself. So no other "books" or "hadith" is necessary. Now, don't get me wrong, as long as hadith IS IN ACCORDANCE with The Qurani.e the Quran backs up the Hadith, it's alright - but if that's the case, why not go to The Source-The Quran in the first place? That in itself nullifies the "need" for hadith! Go to The Source of Islam -the Quran. Allah Knows Best and he told us everything in the Quran. They say 'Creation can only emulate what has been revealed' - so we don't look to the Created-the Hadith for answers - we find our answers seeking Allah! using the Quran as a compass

    Allah states the The Quran is "a simple Book". There is no need for embellishments or supplemental information. That is saying that Allah is insufficient .

    The Quran is not the Hadith
     
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  10. nokiaking

    nokiaking Peon

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    #90
    You can predict what everyone will say because we have these sort of debates nearly every time, and they always end up at the same point :p
     
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  11. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #91
    :eek: nooooooo thats gotta be made up by wikipedia, we all know that they dont have one honest page on that site, it's gotta be a propaganda site huh?:rolleyes:
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #92
    The other guy that I know by the name of LetMeHideBehindYourSkirt always discussed in the same manner as you. Posting something irrelevant and then convincing himself that by posting something stupid and irrelevant he is right.

    Unlike you, I look at links and what does that link proves? The ambassador of Saudi Arabia has written a poem in praise of women suicide bomber, so what? He obviously thinks that she is a hero that died for a cause but you don't agree with it. All cultures and countries have this kind of traditions praising their dead. What do you think a military funeral with military music and gun salutes are for?
    You consider a women suicide bomber a terrorist and an American soldier a hero, they consider her a hero and the soldier as enemy. Violence is wrong and it does not matter who uses it and as long as you and other people like you don't understand this, both sides will have their hero, martyr, terrorist and enemy. :rolleyes:
     
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  13. nokiaking

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    #93
    How come wikipedia does not have a single honest page on the site
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #94
    No one claimed it was. Overwhelming information has been shown that stonings are part of Islam. I've quoted Amabassadors, I've quoted the hadith, I've quoted sharia law and most importantly, we see it in practice all the time. Denying it by trying to obfuscate the issue isn't going to make it go away.

    Agreed, I can always predict denial. It's the only thing you have, because you certainly having discredited any of the sources provided.

    I know, when you can't debate the facts, personal attacks are all that you have. I understand, gworld. I've already discredited you once. And if this were Christianity or Judaism, boy, your comments would be *entirely* different, wouldn't they. But never a bad word...

    No worries, I'm at my best when you can't discredit facts and can only muster up attacks. That's what encourages me, because I know you have nothing left ;)

    So you'll be logging in to wikipedia to change the content? Let me know when you've edited it and how long it lasts? Perhaps you can cite some of those excellent sources you've listed here? Oh wait, you didn't have any sources! It was everyone else that did!
     
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  15. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #95
    Flogging, Stoning, and Amputations Are in Muslim Eyes "The Core of the Islamic Faith"
    "On the other hand… democracy in Britain can do what it wants. In law school, we learned that the English Parliament can do anything except make a male into a female and a female into a male. Now it can do that too. In contrast, according to the Islamic view, no one – the nation cannot, 1,200,000,000 Muslims cannot –make the forbidden permissible and cannot make the permissible forbidden. [In Islam] punishments have been set, and no matter what we say, the West will see them as barbaric and primitive. According to the Western view, flogging is illogical. Execution is unacceptable, and the same goes for amputating hands and stoning. These are things that in Muslim eyes are at the core of the Islamic faith."

    "For this reason, there is a genuine cultural gap that cannot be bridged by hiring the services of a PR company – but only by West and East respecting each others' culture. If we say that Western culture is preposterous, and that it is a wicked and inferior culture, and if they say, your culture is primitive - we will get no results. I maintain that the mature position is to accept the Westerners with their culture, and for them to accept us with ours…"

    he said tthat too
     
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  16. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #96
    because they know you wont subscribe to it if it was truthful:D
     
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    #97
    Did you even read my post before using it to repeat your usual rant? :rolleyes:
    The post that you used was a response to Gtech about a poem by Saudi ambassador in praise of woman bomber and your response had nothing to do with the subject. :rolleyes:

    I am still waiting for your response to this post:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2531681&postcount=87
     
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  18. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #98
    did you even read the page that the SA ambassador was talking on? you know about his poem? scroll to the very bottom of the poem page, and you'll see that what i posted, is what he also said.

    so to say my "response had nothing to do with the subject" is wrong, it has everything to do with it, as that is what the SA ambassador said in the last 2 paragraphs of that article.

    proof that you dont read the full documents provided to you as evidence. and then make a stupid remark like "your response had nothing to do with the subject"

    wow now even i can make you look foolish
     
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  19. d16man

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    #99
    You stick to the facts??? darn, thats a first...I fixed your post for you also.


    sucks when we do it to you, doesn't it? However, you consistently do it to us, and you don't see us complaining near as much...:D
    its so easy, isn't it??
     
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  20. gworld

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    #100
    The only one that you make to look foolish is yourself. You didn't post about that page, you quoted my post and then repeated your usual rant. If you want to post about that page, you don't need to use my post as an excuse for your usual rant. You still haven't answered my question about what is it that you are actually objecting to. :rolleyes:
     
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