Earning 100 dollars a day or more from affiliate programs(actual guide inside)

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  1. 1EightT

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    #121
    I had a math professor that was like that. Calc 3 is difficult enough when you understand what the professor is saying. . .
     
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    #122
    How easy is to rank even for “long tail” keywords, only based on content, with no backlinks, using a brand new domain?
    My personal experience on the first 6 months of domain life is very hard to rank on any keywords even long tail.
     
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  3. 1EightT

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    It isn't very difficult. You do have some backlinks as well. I normally see google rankings in 2-4 weeks and good yahoo rankings in 6-8 weeks. MSN is hit and miss.They weigh domain age HEAVILY!
     
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    #124
    This is definitely interesting stuff 1eightt! As a newbie to this I have these questions:

    1. How long do your cloaked domains stay in the SE's and earn money on average before being banned?

    2. In this regard would it be more secure to register a new domain for each product promoted rather than promoting all products on only 1 domain? (if that would get banned one day there goes your business then...)

    3. How do I get the cloaked domains indexed, get backlinks and most importantly any traffic to them? I admit I'm not the king when it comes to promoting. How much does SSEC take care of that?

    4. is the content also updated by SSEC on the cloaked domains?

    5. Sorry for asking but do I need a hosting account for SSEC or is that included and I don't have to take care of it?

    6. I've read that you had server probs and it took a good time to restore everything. Were all client's domains offline in that time? If yes, how did you make sure that it does not happen again in future? (since earnings depend on it)

    7. Do I need any other additional tools to buy?

    8. Do you also provide templates without foot prints? You see, I'm not a html geek either *lol*
    - As I understand it, the SE visitor will never see the templates anyway used but get straightly redirected to my i.e. affiliate link, correct?

    9. How many different products which would earn me $20/sale each would I need to promote in order to start earning $100/day? I know that is very dependable on many factors. Let's say you have a conversion ratio of 1% you would need 500 visitors/day to produce that income. Maybe the question after products is wrong. No idea, just trying to figure out a ballpark figure :)

    Maybe you can tell from your own experience (of course without any guarantees) how many cloaked domains it took you to reach amount $x per day and what you promoted - PPC, affiliate sales etc. This still wouldn't be precise but at least you'd have some picture.

    Looking forward to your feedback. And don't get discouraged by some naysayers. I've read many times that cloaking works, provided the niche/keywords are not too competitive.

    Cheers
    Michael
     
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  5. 1EightT

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    #125
    I'll just type my responses in bold here:


    1. How long do your cloaked domains stay in the SE's and earn money on average before being banned?
    This depends on your promotional techniques to be honest. People who spam the hell out of their domains with links can expect a fairly quick banning (a couple months). My domains on average last about 6 months in google and indefinitely in yahoo. I have maybe had 5 or 6 banned in yahoo over the years. Yahoo delivers a lot of decent converting traffic so I consider google a bonus.

    2. In this regard would it be more secure to register a new domain for each product promoted rather than promoting all products on only 1 domain? (if that would get banned one day there goes your business then...)

    The entire purpose of our software is to build domains in mass. The people making money have 200 or more domains and never stop building. I laugh when people tell me they are going to test things out with one or two domains. You don't learn anything from such a small sample because chances are you may not have picked an affiliate that even converts. Diversify your sites and diversify the affiliates you work with. This is the only way to earn a living.

    3. How do I get the cloaked domains indexed, get backlinks and most importantly any traffic to them? I admit I'm not the king when it comes to promoting. How much does SSEC take care of that?

    You promote them the same way you would anything else. We go over it pretty extensively on our forums, but common techniques involve blog/ping to get pages indexed, then some form of comment spam for a few back links. It doesn't take much to get indexed and ranked for these long tail words though. Simplified SEC takes care of the pinging, trackbacking (if enabled), and we're releasing a tool that automates linking from .edu sites.

    4. is the content also updated by SSEC on the cloaked domains?

    yes, you just enter the keywords and adjust your content settings.

    5. Sorry for asking but do I need a hosting account for SSEC or is that included and I don't have to take care of it?

    We provide hosting for you to get going, but people with their own hosting tend to have far more success simply because they have more control over everything.

    6. I've read that you had server probs and it took a good time to restore everything. Were all client's domains offline in that time? If yes, how did you make sure that it does not happen again in future? (since earnings depend on it)

    We had a server move three or four months ago with some downtime. Our servers haven't even been restarted in over two months. They are more rock solid than any server host i've ever used before.

    7. Do I need any other additional tools to buy?

    no

    8. How many different products which would earn me $20/sale each would I need to promote in order to start earning $100/day? I know that is very dependable on many factors. Let's say you have a conversion ratio of 1% you would need 500 visitors/day to produce that income. Maybe the question after products is wrong. No idea, just trying to figure out a ballpark figure :)

    Impossible to say. I have some items that I sell 50 of per day. Others you will get maybe one sale a month. Diversify and build as much as you can. There is no clear cut formula since there are literally millions of products out there. You might get lucky and throw up one domain for one affiliate and make a killing. More likely you will need to put forth some effort and time.

    Maybe you can tell from your own experience (of course without any guarantees) how many cloaked domains it took you to reach amount $x per day and what you promoted - PPC, affiliate sales etc. This still wouldn't be precise but at least you'd have some picture.

    A couple hundred domains should get you earning a steady 100-200 a day with decent affiliates (sometimes more sometimes less).

    Looking forward to your feedback. And don't get discouraged by some naysayers. I've read many times that cloaking works, provided the niche/keywords are not too competitive.

    I don't sweat it. I make a good living from cloaking. Anyone thinking it doesn't work is either naive, or simply missing the point. We have enough people making money using our software where I don't feel I have to prove myself or its worth. If it seems like a good match for what you do, then use it. If not, don't :)
     
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    #126
    Thanks heaps for the kind and long reply! It's very much appreciated!

    Maybe you could answer my question for templates if possible. (8.) The monthly fee is not too high for the service offered. The only thing I'd need to save a little is for the mass of domains to make this all work at all. Some hundred domains will cost a few $$$ admitted.

    Do you use whois privacy for domains? Asking whether there is any risk regarding spamming etc.

    But this is definitely a very interesting tool and concept and I'll seriously consider this for my next project.
     
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  7. 1EightT

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    #127
    Sorry, what was the questions about the templates? I'm probably just blind, but I missed it :)

    You can save tons on domains by going through someone like tierra.net (.88 cent .info's). Just get 30 or 40 to start and let those bring in some income before jumping in further. This gives you a good idea of which merchants are converting and keeps costs down. SPend 25-30 on domains for a month.

    Personally I don't use who is protection, but some people prefer using it.

    Any other questions you may have I would be happy to answer. I'm not one of those guys that's going to try and make the system out to be something it isn't.
     
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    #128
    Hi,

    thanks for the tierra suggestion. I heard bad things about, no idea if it was registerfly which also offered .infos for cheap.

    8. Do you also provide templates without foot prints? You see, I'm not a html geek either *lol*
    - As I understand it, the SE visitor will never see the templates anyway used but get straightly redirected to my i.e. affiliate link, correct?

    Thanks again,
    Michael

     
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    #129
    oh, ok. Yes, registerfly is the one to stay away from. I've been using tierra for more than 6 months, have about 300 domains with them and have never had a problem. Very quick response and almost instant nameserver changes.

    For the template question, we do have templates you can download right in the forums. I also have video tutorials up that show you how to convert blog templates into something you can use as well. I've got a few examples of what I use. Personally I stick to pretty plain html templates. The pages are cloaked so no real need for anything fancy. Throw in a head, body, title, and a few of our tokens.
     
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    #130
    I've been swamped lately trying to stasrt up a new hosting company to go along side our software. I know I have missed a few pm's here so please contact me or post here if you still have questions. I'm going to post a few more tips that I have discovered lately.

    For one, I setup a clone of a popular information site a few weeks ago to test out some ssec arbitrage. My goal was to do the same thing everyone does with ppc arbitrage, but using our software instead of paying for the traffic. It's been two weeks now and with 18 ssec domains driving traffic I am up to 50.00 a day. My real goal is 100-200 a day by the end of the month. I'm going to take some time today and setup 30-50 more domains with some large keyword lists and see what happens. It's an ongoing experiment, but I will try to update fairly regularly.
     
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    #131
    It looks awesome ..:)

    Lemme ask u sth.Do u use totally different templates for every single domain?
     
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    #132
    No, if your templates are general enough you can use the same one on several sites. I usually switch it up every 30-50 domains.
     
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    #133
    So far so good for the wiki experiment. I've been updating my members regularly and figured an update here was in order. I keep seeing a gradual increase in the adsense earnings. I got the majority of my new domains up and pointed at the wiki so now i'm just waiting on some rankings and traffic from them. Yahoo seems to have picked up my last batch of domains which is good news traffic wise.

    I'm getting ready to release a new content generator for the software that does far more data processing to give better resulting content. We're going the direction of the search engines using some LSI technology as well as phrase based content creation. The result should be better overall rankings and longer lasting pages in the big three. We hope to release this this afternoon still.
     
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    #134
    i just purchased a subscription i will post here a review :)
     
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    #135
    Thanks for sharing, that was really helpful. :)
     
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    Cool. Looking forward to your review. Didn't realize it was a old thread.
     
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    #137
    This thread is interesting, but look at the date posting, why there is break between 2 Apr 2007 to 1 Oct 2007?

    Is the software still available?
     
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    #138
    knock knock ..hello ,,PM had been sent but no reply ..hey, we want to buy !!
     
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    I wonder too.. Let's wait for the OP's post here. I am also interested.
     
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    #140
    I take weekends off to spend with my family so I didn't visit the post. What questions do you guys have? I've posted other threads for the software. We're at our 100 limit most times of the month. This month we do have a few payments that have been declined so there are a couple spots.
     
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