Shoot... Are Iranian People OK with this? Seriously? Are there any Iranian DP member here to give their thoughts about that?
excuse me for bad english . i'm iranian and can't speak english completely . islam not for iranian . for all peoples ! and all other religion follower . now we have a small islam laws and complete islam is different . is better . is ideal for life . i selected islam . this is my private opinion . and i have other private reason for that. islam don't have problem with other religion . but other religion have many problem with islam . christianity and Judaism have many problem with islam (specially ) . and they want to push islam on seclusion . but we can see many europ and other countries people goes to islam . if islam has heavy laws we can't see this people .
in her appeal papers the judge said her age was 22, knowing that iran has stated it will not hang children under 18. the judge put the rope round her neck himself. the judge runs a whorehouse and she had been raped by the moral police too, and raped while in jail. do you really think they care? her body was dug up the same night she was hung and stolen, my guess is either the judge (who wanted her to work for him) or the moral police that raped her, feared she was pregnant and stole her body to prevent any evidence being found. (thats my thoughts on it, after watching that TV Doc about her)
Remind me, then, when islam goes to a country, violence always follows? Ethiopia is a great example of this. So is Europe.
When I asked if there's any Iranian here to bring their thoughts, it was about this girl, not about religion. I do not believe in God. And I have muslims, jewish, christian friends. I have nothing against their beliefs since I don't believe myself. But, I can say that I deserve death under Islam because I'm an infidel , as a non follower of Allah. However, under my belief(or whatever you call it), my muslims friends do not deserve death, they deserve my friendship. See the difference...?? Well, I don't want to go there, where is the chicken or the egg first. Religion is an excuse for half of the wars in history...No religion today, no war...
I highly doubt that...the romans didn't have a god so they made Ceaser into one...people naturally want something or someone to worship. no religion today, and i think it would be a bigger war to see who lands on top...
I agree. However, I wrote today as I think mankind may have less interest to other land as in the past. And I wrote half because another excuse may surge... But you're right, human's stupidity is sometime so high that a war can come for any reason...probably due to intelligence...
romans had gods, though. they deified caesar as a political move against Brutus after caesar was killed. It's hard to argue against a war where the people who killed a god are the enemy
Well...getting back on topic...I think this is a mistake to try to convert people in arabs countries to democracy. They just don't want it. And we should respect that. Occident was deploring the way of life of Afghanistan women behind they blue bed sheets where the eyes were hidden behind a little screen. Well, guest what, the change has been little. It's a matter of facts that these women just like to live that way, they want to live as an animal for their husbands. Today, thousands of women there still wore their stuff... It is sad for us to see that, but it may be sad for them to see little girls playing freely in our park...
Again this punishment has nothing to do with Islam, that is the punishment of according to the laws of that country. Is that really so hard to understand? So putting this down to Islam is wrong, instead trying putting it down to he country where this occured. Nowhere in the Quran does it say that the punishment for adultery is stoning death,In the Quran it says: "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication flog each of them".(24.2) So where did this punishment that adulterers should be stoned to death, come from? Its the laws of the particular country. Please learn to distinguish between what is an Islamic law and what is a Countries law. Just because the majority of citizens are muslim doesn't mean the country is following Islamic law.
who writes the laws? the islamic people right. who practice it? the islamic people right, who carry out the sentences? the islamic people. iran law is based on shera law, watch a movie of 4 people stoned to death note the 200+ crowed throwing the stones? note what they shout just before they start. ""Allah hu Akbar" (meaning, God is great)" you are telling me that this is not in gods name? i beg to differ, but that barbaric mob say otherwise.
Parliament. Wrong. Law of a country applies independent of the religion or lack of it. The whole country, unless you want to break the law. Wrong. Judiciary, it means courts and police. Iran does not have shera law like saudi arabi, it is mixed of previous criminal law and Isalmic law. The bigger question is who has the right to make a decision about the laws of a country, people who live in that country or outsiders. For example I am against death penalty but USA is one of the few countries in western world that still has death penalty. Who should decide about their laws, Americans or Canadians, English, French, German, Swedish .... people?
These people live in a particular country so they follow the rules of that particular country. Just because a majority of that country- (note: I said majority, so going back to your statements, its not just 'islamic people' that follow the laws of the country, its everyone in that country) follow a particular religion doesn't mean that everything that happens in that country is down to that particular religion. If stoning was really a part of Islam, why is not mentioned in the Quran? As everything about ISlam is in that book, why is there nothing about stoning to death in it?
Because it's in the hadiths, which much of sharia law (which DOES prescribe stoning as punishment) is based upon. You should know this Oddly enough, stoning is mentioned in the Old Testament, yet Christians and Jews do not prescribe such as punishment.
Volume 2, Book 23, Number 413: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque."