ADs brought on porkolt.com, 6000+ clicks, NO COVERSION!!

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by yamakazy89, Mar 12, 2007.

  1. #1
    I have recently brought and ad space via etology.com on porkolt.com.

    This is what the AD looked like

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    Make $1000+/Day
    I will teach you how to!
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    (There wasn't any space to write much more.)

    This is the product: yamakazy.imarichkid.hop.clickbank.net/

    Not even 1 conversion...y??

    These are the statistics for the site.
    Avg. Clicks / Day: 6,418
    Avg. CPC: $0.05
    Avg. Impressions: 4,654,453
    Alexa Ranking: 1,497
    Type: Text
    Member Since: 02/13/07

    These are the descriptions for the site

    Description of site:
    Porkolt.com is one of the fastest growin
    g social networking and video sharing si
    tes! With the majority of traffic coming
    from U.S. and Western Europe, it is mon
    ey well spent. The 3,500,00+ impressions
    a DAY doesn't hurt, either.

    Description of ad space:
    Text ads show full-screen at the end of
    every video on Porkolt's internal player
    . Semi-viral marketing is used on the ex
    ternal player and is shown during the vi
    deo at the top of the player and at the
    end of the video full screen.

    Tags:
    viral, semiviral, social, networking, videos

    can anyone tell me why there has been no conversion?
     
    yamakazy89, Mar 12, 2007 IP
  2. Daniel Alan

    Daniel Alan Member

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    #2
    Buying traffic, not promotion, is certainly a bad way to try and convert clicks into purchases.

    Just try different methods. And my affiliate program :) it's better! lol.
     
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  3. Telmari

    Telmari Active Member

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    #3
    No sales because it's not targeted traffic. A billion people could see your ad, but if they're not interested in the product, it won't matter :)

    -T
     
    Telmari, Mar 12, 2007 IP
  4. yamakazy89

    yamakazy89 Peon

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    Daniel Alan you're product looks just the similar to the one I am promoting..lol...:D

    Perhaps if you can guide me step by step I will switch to you're product. I am new to clickbank stuff brought many of the clickbank get rich ideas.....they all work just want to make my 1st sale, This is my email i hope you can get back to me: long_live_kamikazies@hotmail.com
     
    yamakazy89, Mar 13, 2007 IP
  5. Need_incomes

    Need_incomes Peon

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    Wow sorry to hear you lost over $300. I lost $60 with Yahoo ADs and zero converts. My dad told me so and that all those claiming to make money are lying or saying whatever nonsense they want.

    I dont know what Telmari means by not targeted traffic. I used specific, targeted keywords and had a good AD description. If people were not interested in "getting rich quick" they shouldnt have clicked.

    What im gonna do is be a merchant and offer my own ebooks and lets others sponsor me. They can pay to bring the traffic to my website for a 75% comission while I make money paying $0 for ADs ;)
     
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  6. forelmashi

    forelmashi Peon

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    i feel you lol
     
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  7. yamakazy89

    yamakazy89 Peon

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    This sucks!! a product telling you how to make $1000/Day for $50, How cannot someone buy?? specially out of 6,434 clicks!!! ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
     
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  8. trafficnotice

    trafficnotice Peon

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    #8
    I think you are not targetting the proper audience. Most of the visitors at the video site are probably teenagers and they are not likely to buy a $50 dollar eBook about getting rich online. You probably want to target the 30+ crowd with middle to low income; for them, $50 is a good investment for the promise that they can make many times that amount back quickly.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. motheninja

    motheninja Peon

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    #9
    What was the audience that saw your ad?

    If it was stay at home moms then the problem was with the landing page.

    If it was myspace kids then the problem was with your audience.
     
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  10. andheresjohnny

    andheresjohnny Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about some of the other video dump sites, but porkolt contains such a wide variety of videos (comedy, music, porn, etc) that I'm not surprised you made $0.00 off that traffic.

    Since its not targeted, all you are getting are the merely curious and those that accidently clicked on the ad.
     
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  11. dog_24

    dog_24 Peon

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    #11
    Okay, guys, I am tired of repeating. But let's put it down like this. You're in a Super Market and you don't know what you need, you came here just to see if something WILL INTEREST you and if it DOES INTEREST you and CONVINCE you then you'll probably buy. The problem is that there are 5000 more visitors that are just wandering not knowing what they want. So I believe that's what happened to you.

    If you're saying you have targeted traffic and mean that by bidding on a general keyword like 'make money' will bring you good conversions, you're wrong and your fail is the proof of it.

    You see, there are many searches on 'make money' but some of them look for different ways of making money. They can be 'make money with my web site', 'make money investing', 'make money on ebay' - these are THREE ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT markets which you MUST target properly in order to get something out of it.

    I hope this helps.
     
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  12. Telmari

    Telmari Active Member

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    Well, what I mean about not targeted traffic is just that - the traffic wasn't targeted. I'm willing to bet you put a fair amount of thought into your ad targeting being lined up exactly towards the product, but how targeted was the ad towards the people who are most likely to buy?

    It sounds like you had an audience targeting failure.

    Even with a catchy title, there's a huge difference between a teen or 20'sish web surfer who's on porkolt.com to hang out, talk to friends, watch some videos, sees a little blurb about making money online and decides to surf over to see what it's about... and an affiliate marketer or someone else who already has the full intention not only of making money, but also being willing to spend a bit to get some advice, products, etc that have real promise to help bring about this goal - see what I mean?

    Now, if you had an ad that was something like "Crazy insanely hilarious videos" or something, that might be a real match for that audience.

    But in reality, the success of your sales depends in almost the greatest degree on who you try to sell to.

    As one of my mentors says, "Fish where the fish are" ;)

    And further, you have to realize that not everyone who is interested enough by your headline to click on your ad is anywhere nearly enough interested to actually pull out their wallets and pay for a product.

    It's a reality in real life too - how many times have you yourself gone to a store, knowing already in advance exactly what the store offered as far as products, but still came out, not buying anything because of any number of reasons? It's really the same way online.

    But the good news is that even with these factors, it's still possible to be incredibly profitable in your campaigns because you can often times advertise to qualified buyers for just a fraction of the price it costs to get a sale :) Once you find the targeted traffic and potential customers, things go much more easily.

    Hope this helped clarify things a bit, and will get you off to a better start on your next campaign :)

    -T
     
    Telmari, Mar 13, 2007 IP
  13. yamakazy89

    yamakazy89 Peon

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    #13
    still it sucks i wanted to be a thousendair before the age of 18 (ime 17) but i spent all my money on that G** site, now ime left with nothing.
     
    yamakazy89, Mar 14, 2007 IP
  14. dog_24

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    Heh, well if it was that easy, everyone would be a thousandier before they turn 18.
     
    dog_24, Mar 14, 2007 IP
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    crap happens I know. My ADs were Yahoo sponsored search and my specific targeted keywords are getting only like 2 clicks a day and a very, very low click rate. Would take a month to get one sale that way. I thought it was easy, my friends brag about how much they make. Dad thinks they are lying/exaggerating. Im gonna make my own website and promote my own products instead of promoting other people's stuff. Hey others can promote my site in fact :D
     
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  16. Telmari

    Telmari Active Member

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    Sometimes even the slightest detail can make a world of difference - usually the only way is to test.

    I've had campaigns where I was focusing on one main ad group that I thought was specific & perfectly targetted, only to waste about 70$ on it before figuring out it probably wasn't getting any sales. Since then, I average about 175% ROI on it.

    Sometimes it's about specific & targetted keywords... other times it's really just about finding the phrase that best captures the buyer's intent to purchase a product.

    -T
     
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  17. Need_incomes

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    How many different keywords do you have? I got around 50 keywords, none of them single words or two very common words. The specific keywords arent often used and the more common ones have too much competition.
     
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  18. Telmari

    Telmari Active Member

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    It depends on the campaign. My most profitable to date has around 200 keywords or so, but only 1/3 of those are unique since I'm using all match types for a more targeted bunch of keywords.

    Most of them are 3-6 words in length. Not all of them get tons of clicks... but some of the most obscure ones only need 1-2 clicks for a sale because while they're not heavily searched or have much competition, they're perfectly aligned to what the customer's looking for, and by using Dynamic Page Optimization, I'm able to target these groups very specifically and get some good sales.

    However, you don't need tons of keywords to make sales. I started up a new PPC campaign the other day on a whim with 4 keywords (very google-cash-ish style, bidding on the brand/product name only) and so far have made 4 sales on about 15$ adspend.

    I'd definitely recommend a bottom-up approach rather than a top-down one, when it comes to PPC: Start off small & slow, with the most specific/top keywords/phrases you think will convert, see if they do, and then go from there, adding them a few at a time, rather than the top down, where you try to add a lot of keywords at first to see if anything converts, and end up spending a lot of money before you can really drill down.

    This much just from personal experience - yours may differ, but I do know how easy it is to spend a lot of money on your keywords without even trying.

    -T
     
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  19. dog_24

    dog_24 Peon

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    You don't know anything about being a vendor.If you're thinking it's just putting a product on Cb, you're wrong. Your job is to provide affiliates the best conversion, you must have a good design, a good sales page, affiliate support, promotional tools and many many other things that I think you don't know about.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
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