Legalize Ganja in the US!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gurusecrets, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. Rick_Michael

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    #21


    • Yeah, it would be a good thing in terms of not wasting money on imprisonment.

      http://www.alternet.org/story/47815/

      I think inner cities need local oriented programs. Things organized mostly by the community.

      I'll admit to smoking it a handful of times (in my teens), but sincerly it's quite neligible. I think a persons character determines more of persons future than their behaviour of smoking weed. I don't think they're mutual exclusive ie it's not like taking herione. You're not going to be overly effected unless you truely chose to be that way.

    The cost benefit is clearly in it's legalization.

    It's one of those issue where I'm wondering why there's so much opposition. I don't think it will create a world of hippies. If anything, you'll have more calm people on Friday.
     
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  2. Dead Corn

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    #22
    Hah!!! I agree totally. So does the last Drug Czar of New York. This "war" is lost. Ridiculous the money we spend to fight this battle very few, if any, believe can be won.
     
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  3. Josh Inno

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    #23
    I'd like to add an addendum of not requiring me to pay the mistakes of others when it comes to tort as well. If you're stupid enough to stick a screw driver in your eye, I shouldn't have to pay more for my screw drivers because you sued the screwdriver manufacturer for not putting a label on the screwdriver saying "do not stick in eye". Oy.

    And no I've never smoked it. Or a cigarette. I have a sensitive throat condition that makes the smoke of OTHERS even more unpleasant for me than for most people. Even if I didn't have that, I wouldn't smoke either.
     
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  4. Seobiznezz

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    #24
    As a non user of marijuana but a pro legalization advocate I just have to say that when people in this thread say "nothing good comes of it".

    Did you happen to know that the operating system you are using right now was invented by 2 guys that got high everyday and I bet any money that unlike alcohol marijuana allowed them to think outside the norm and break through the boundries that allow invention to happen.

    Yes, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs smoked MJ every day while inventing DOS.

    Please please don't say "nothing good comes from it" The world would be a better place for safety and physical abuse if more people chose Marijuana over alcohol.
     
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  5. Michelangelo

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    #25
    This topic isn`t only discussed in the US but everywhere. In my oppinion. Legal or illegal, thise who want to consume ganja will get it not thinking about legality.

    One the other hand, if ganja is legal, than the gouverments may set a certain quality. So the dealers aren*t able to punch it with glue or other toxic stuff.
     
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  6. math20

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    #26
    To everyone saying that tax dollars should not be used to support drug addicts therefore they should remain illegal, should the war on drugs be supported with tax dollars?

    If you are worried about saving money, neither welfare OR drug illegalization should exist.
     
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  7. Dubz

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    #27
    You cant tax it and that is the problem. Toby and Alc you need to add stuff and it's not as easy as planitn gomsething in your back yard. It's all with money the gov is more concerned about that than about your health.
     
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  8. Dubz

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    #28
    Don't get me started on welfare!

    Abolish the min wage and there would be no welfare. Sure there will always be BUMS who are from generations of losers but lots of people on welfare WANT a job but cant find it. at 3$ they WOULD get hired as a dishwasher but not at 7.

    Instead of gov paying 7$ why not have guy pay 3 and get check from gov for 4.

    Person is working and cost us less. Wait that is to logical
     
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  9. AndrewZ

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    #29
    There may be some monetary benefits that the government could have from legalizing weed, but so many people fail to look at the reality that tens of thousands of more American workers will be going to work high or stoned, which, with today's foreign competition, would not be good at all.
     
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  10. Dead Corn

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    #30
    with all the murdering, child-raping simply insane whack-jobs we have to let out of jail each year because there's no room - you think somebody would listen to the ex-New York City drug czar who says - LEGALIZE IT.

    That piece of shit last night in Florida... Others just like him, how many times are we going to let these murderous scumbags out because somebody has their head up somebody elses ass?

    This hypocracy at the expense of our very safety makes me sick.
     
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  11. math20

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    #31
    A company is capable of firing incompetent workers, the government does not need to help with this.

    Also, I may be for regulation of the gangja but what does the government need the tax money for?
     
    math20, Mar 8, 2007 IP
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    #32
    What is the difference between marijuana and coffee and all these caffeine drinks? I see more people at the office high on this stuff than marijuana anyday. They drive like maniacs and you can't have a conversation with them as they are too sketchy.

    Did you watch Saturday night live last week. They did a sketch on this woman applying for a job on the new energy drinks that are dominating the convenience stores. She was wacked out on caffeine.

    The point is "Prohibition does not work". It never worked for alcohol and now drugs are easier to get than ever.

    The war on drugs causes more harm than the drugs themselves.
     
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  13. ferret77

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    #33
    I don't know, new roads, schools, better infrastucture
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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  15. math20

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    #35
    Highways are paid for by the gasoline tax and everything else is paid for by the states. The feds may have the power to add that tax, but it is unconstitutional to spend it on anything not enumerated in the constitution.
     
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  16. Josh Inno

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    #36
    First off, Steve Jobs... inventing DOS? Ahhh. No. He's one of the creators of Apple computers.

    Secondly... Bill Gates... inventing DOS? Ahhh. No.

    Bill and co bought an OS called QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System) from another company that was coding it to rip off a third opperating system. Gates and fellows then cleaned it up a bit, before selling their cloned OS to IBM. Why do you think microsoft sues anyone that gets near their look and feel, even if the code is completely different? It's because that's how they got their start. They stole another OS's look and feel (outright stole) and then based their entier empire on it.

    Based on the inaccuracy of the rest of your information, I don't really have any faith that they were 'smoking pot' even when not 'inventing DOS' as they supposedly did.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #37
    Being able to make fine of the dummies that smoke it.. They are hilarious...

    This is probably one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard and it comes up time and time again... Stupidity runs in cycles....

    Some of my favorites:

    Pot does not make you violent.
    Tell that to the guy that put a gun to my head while stoned

    Pot is never gave anyone cancer
    Smoking does though... You could smoke basil for all I care, it's the smoke that's the problem, not the drug itself.

    Check out a whole list of myths debunked on the facts about Marijuana usage.

    http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html

    I will say this though... I really do not see the point in sending some pot head to jail for life for smoking dope... If they wanna burn up their brain, eat too much and look like a cross between Lyndsey Lohen and K-Fed, go for it...

    But please, be honest, don't give me bull shit lies about how beneficial pot is.
     
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    #38
    Read any unbias study not produced by gov't propaganda and you will see that the benefits of marijuana are extensive.

    P.S. you don't have to smoke marijuana. You can vaporize it and turn it to steam. It eliminates the smoke and does not hurt the lungs. You still get all the same pain relief without the smoke.

    Within 20 years people will start using it more and more for relief of many symptoms without the harmful side effects of prescription drugs that the drug companies control.
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #39
    Did you even bother to follow my link? This was not a government produced piece of propaganda. This was produced by a doctor.

    I would hardly consider THC as beneficial to pain relief. I'll take Vicodin or Percocet over that any day. At least with these pain relievers you are still in control of your faculties.

    There are good uses for hemp however, that I would agree with, the least of which is as a pain reliever. ;)
     
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  20. vchill_out

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    #40
    well...after reading all this, i would think its better not to be a stupid to smoke and turn to a lump!
    I dont know what it contains nor interested in finding out
    I just enjoy ma interests and hanging out!

    enjoy
     
    vchill_out, Mar 9, 2007 IP