why someone take your word then? You came to these thread with a mind set on one thing and one thing alone that is blame muslims and islam for everything. Don't you know there was peace in the middle east before Israel? If you turn you face away from facts then it won't change them at all.
Because when I debate a subject, I offer sources to back up my points. You should try it sometime. It works great! The only thing your oponent is left with, is denial. There has never been peace in the middle east. islam is not conducive to peace.
Speaking as a british guy who is non-muslim, i understand very little about it & have a few questions about it before i can say whether i agree with it or not or whats wrong or right with it, i have a few questions I have heard about Dhimmis before & told that it would relate to me some how if islamic law was in place where i was, i was wondering if you could explain if this would affect me at all & what is involved? Also would i be allowed as many wifes as muslims or not?
All this nonsense about muslims having so many wives is not true. You can't just decide to marry about 5 or 6 people just for the fun of it, Islam does not allow that. The whole concept of having more than one wife in Islam was not to satisfy men’s desire and that's it, but for the welfare of the widows and the orphans of the wars. During war times, many women had husbands who were killed, thus leaving no one to provide for the family,so other men would 'marry' the women and sort of adopt the whole family and hence provide for them. Take the example of Prophet Muhammed: When he was twenty-five years old he married for the first time. His wife, Khadijah, was fifteen years older than he. She remained the only wife of the prophet for the next twenty-five years, until she died Only after her death, did the prophet marry other women. Now, it is obvious that if the prophet was after physical pleasure he did not have to wait until he was more than fifty years old to start marrying more wives. He lived in a society in which it was quite acceptable to have many wives. But the prophet remained devoted to his only wife for twenty-five years. His later marriages were for various reasons. Some marriages were with the view to help the women whose husbands had been killed while they were defending their faith, others were to build bridges with various tribes who were otherwise at war with the Muslims. When the prophet became their relative through marriage, their armies calmed down, and much bloodshed was stopped.
Oh right thanks for that info! If the circumstances were correct then i could theoretically marry another woman & adopt her family if she did indeed have children? Also do you have any info on Dhimmis?
Adding to nokiaking's post: In islam you are allowed to marry maximum of 4 times. But the ORDER is if you can't do justice between them, then only marry 1.
They all have to be treated the same, that is the right thing to do. What about Dhimmis whatever that is?
To be honest I haven't heard that word "dhimmis" before than in this forum, couple of days ago. As far as my knowledge and local practice here in Pakistan, In Islam, Muslims and Non-Muslims have equal rights.
the same law that says women cant drive a car, the same law that says women cant be educated to read and write, the same law that says a rape victim gets stoned to death because she didnt fight her attacker to the death, so wanted the sex. the same law that says i have to hide my looks from the world, the same law that says at the time i start my periods, (common for 8 year old girls) i am ready for sex and marrage. you have to ask?
the people that start to kill each other...if they were respectful people, it wouldn't be a problem...but apparently muslims can't handle that type of situation, they gotta have all the power. Its not a double standard...you were saying that because those terrorists do what they do they arn't muslims....however, they are, and you seem to have a problem getting this through your skull... I'm not aware of S.A asking us to leave, got a source for that one? Furthermore, S.A. has been an ally of ours, because they don't want the terrorists in their nation...people hate the US for what we have, a free society that works...its not islamic law, and it works.
Then why all those law enforcement agnecies in US? If people are respectfull in US then why you need FBI, Police, State Police, Rangers etc.
This thread has no sense. You just can't cpmpare apples and oranges. We are talking about 21st century societies countries and countries that cannot leave the 6th century way of living due to a intolerant religion...
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/Display...rch/middleeast_March71.xml§ion=middleeast Islam is awesome.
The way I see it is this: Yes, in the US we do have murderers...we do need law enforcement. In Iraq, where muslim terrorists want to rule, you have people blowing themselves up just so they can kill others...that is something that is not present in the USA...I love how you want to compare the two...however, over here we know what is right and wrong...over in iraq people only care about one thing: how much power they can get...which is why they convince stupid young males to blow themselves up....at least they are cleansing the gene pool.
I just found this gem....looks like 7 men kidnapped and raped a 19 Saudi Arabia women, and SHE was given 90 lashes for it!!! Meantime the rapers did 10 months-5 years in jail...according to islamic law...whatcha got to say about this? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256980,00.html
I agree. A woman CANNOT be raped by more than 1 man. She MUST be raped by the husband only. She deserved to be punished... A correct application of the laws is mandatory...
The Federal Investigation Agency of Pakistan is a national investigative agency with a wide role in anti-terrorism, anti-corruption, human smuggling and copyright infringement policing. (Pakistan FBI) National Central Bureau Interpol of Pakistan police etc, i can name more law enforcement agencies in Pakistan but why bother? you're trying to make something out of nothing. In August 2004, Iran’s Islamic penal system sentenced a 16-year-old girl, Atefeh Rajabi, to death after a sham trial, in which she was accused of committing “acts incompatible with chastityâ€. The teenage victim had no access to a lawyer at any stage and efforts by her family to retain one were to no avail. Atefeh personally defended herself and told the religious judge that he should punish those who force women into adultery, not the victims. She was eventually hanged in public in the northern town of Neka. powerful TV about her here. a 13 year old child sexual abuse victim, hung at 16, after 3 years of sexual abuse by a 51 year old taxi driver, he got 90 lashes. whats right with islam? nothing is.