the right to life or the right to bare arms? 37,000 children die in in the usa.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by samantha pia, Mar 1, 2007.

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    The right to life or the right to bare arms? 37,000 children killed in 8 years in the USA. by guns.

    There were 88 children under 5 killed by firearms in 1996.
    There were 134 children murdered before their 10th birthday.

    Gun violence is not a problem limited to race or class. More than half of the children killed by firearms in 1996 were White.

    Children Killed by Guns in the USA: In 1999, there were 3,385 firearms-related deaths for children ages 0–19 years. They break down as follows: 214 unintentional, 1,078 suicides, 1,990 homicides, 83 for which the intent could not be determined, and 20 due to legal intervention. (shot by cops) Source: 2002 edition of Injury Facts.

    WASHINGTON - October 12 - Gunfire killed 4,643 U.S. infants, children and teens in 1996, alarming figures, yet still the lowest American gun death toll since 1989.

    America, your right to bare arms is killing your children, what are you defending? a right to take life or someone right to end your childs life?

    please see some sense, what did the 37,000 children think when they walked to school the day they were killed? "daddy has a gun so nothings gonna happen to me today"?

    no they went to school to make daddy proud of them, and were killed that day. and never knowing why or even what happend, bang, most never even heard the shot.

    them that heard a shot where runing and screaming for their life, and your right to bare arms, killed them. you kill your children, because you think you need to defend them, tell that to that 37,000 kids.

    if you wanna defend this right and give me bad rep. then fine, just put ya name to the bad rep ok.

    if you support my feeling, please say your bit, i dont want + rep for this, i just want 37,000 words of comfort for the lost children.

    this shocked me, it really did, i cant believe the figures i read.

    sammie saying sorry 37,000 times and counting, +1
     
    samantha pia, Mar 1, 2007 IP
  2. future

    future Banned

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    #2
    It really hurts and Ameica is killing many more out side America, In iraq and Afghanistan, but what can we do expect Protesting?
     
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  3. sawz

    sawz Prominent Member

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    #3
    how about you quote your source.
     
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  4. 8everything

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    That's really sad, something needs to be done about this:( . Good thing guns aren't legal here in Canada...
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    #5
    It's american "culture" what more do you expect in any other country in the world you can't get a gun like in USA + other things
     
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  6. bidder

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    #6
    Some old man says there is no safe place in this world. Not only in US, Middle East, Asia or any place. Long-long tome ago, the creator of gun or fire arms mention that fire arms are for safety or just to shot pig (pig always destroy their plantation etc), but look at now, what happen. Guns doesn't know which one was enemy and which one friends, also who is legal to keep and who don't.

    Better guns illegal all over the world.
     
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    I would love Gtech come here and talk about this. :)

    America is so worried about Terror, that it can't even control what's happening in USA.....
     
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    I don't understand - why is the USA worried about the terror they are causing?
     
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  9. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    CDC.gov

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    *** Population estimates are aggregated for multi-year reports to produce rates.

    that is for the 10 years from 1988-1998 age 0-19
     
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    HEY! just b/c we have drive thru liquor stores :rolleyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG5KCZGD4H0
     
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    #11
    Blame the piss poor parents for the accidental deaths, not the guns. Suicide shouldn't be counted in the death toll either, if it wasn't a gun they'd find something else. Legal intervention should also be taken off the list, that's just downright stupid. That leaves homicide, and I guarantee the majority of those were commited with illegally obtained firearms anyways.
     
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    Blame the parents for the incident occurred. The reality guns are only deadly if used for their intended purpose. No child dies just because there is such a thing as guns. They die because one of these guns is used. But that's a freakish, statistically insignificant aberration that merely proves my point: Only when guns are used as intended are they significantly dangerous to anyone.
     
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  13. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    without the guns on the street, there wouldnt be any to use for crime, blame the parents? that means blame the adults in the usa right? kids killed in class by guns, thats not the fault of the usa people either huh? thats the parents fault for sending the child to school. do you 2 know how stupid you sound?

    blame anyone but the gun owners dealers and the NRA for the gun deaths, of 50,000+ children in 10 years, yea right, why dont you do what the UK did.
    one school shooting and hand guns were banned.
     
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    #14
    So what are we supposed to do, give up our guns so only the criminals and police have them? Everyone knows that by the time the police help you, its too late. As the saying goes, "guns don't kill people, people kill people."

    A gun is an inanimate object. Calling guns bad because children sometimes die by accident is like wanting to ban the Internet just because you got sickos who use it to get children.

    Guns make America what it is, a country with a semblance of freedom. The way things are going here in the U.S., I hope you are armed when the "you know what" hits the fan, because our government is so out of control, I smell a revolution brewing. Its sad to see that children sometimes die by accident, but historically, dictators like Mao and Hitler always enjoyed gun confiscation, since it allowed them to maintain a high degree of power. You have to look at the big picture.
     
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  15. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    ok the big picture is simple, you and your .38 are not going to overthrow the govenment,
    the cops in the uk are not armed, at airports and other places yes, but not walking the beat, they voted not to arm themselves not long ago, why? even though we have some guns on the streets, we still dont need the police to be armed.
    you made me laugh when you said "why should the cops only have guns" like you're willing to shoot the cops, dont you hear yourself? you make it sound like the wild west. the usa still so backward it makes you look dumb to most of the world.
     
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    #16
    If gun locks were mandatory, it would save a lot of lives.
     
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  17. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    if guns where removed from the people, that would save even more:rolleyes:
     
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    #18
    I agree. I have many guns that I use for sport hunting (I have the animal processed so as not to waste the meat and thus waste a life). I make sure they are responsibly kept (gun locks, and placed in a gun safe, in a locked "safe room") The keys for these arent on my keychain and are actually within another safe (sentry fire-safe)... so they are pretty well protected from young children.

    Removing guns completely would be pointless because there are legitimate purposes for guns. Until we clean up the streets, there will always be a gun problem. Irresponsibility is far more dangerous than any gun but unfortunately, guns get the bad image.

    Its unfortunate that anyone (other than an armed and dangerous criminal or terrorist) should loose their life to a gun. A lot of the problem is the NRA showing up at places like Littleton just after school shootings.. rubbing it in. I say, piss on the NRA and Charleton Heston.

    As a gun owner, responsibility is key. We need to work on accountability of those who sell guns and do something about these gun shows that seem to be the supply chain for idiots hell bent on carying out their "mission"
     
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    #19
    Most of those deaths were because of criminals, and they aren't going to be following any gun regulation laws, the whole thing is pointless. So why should I lose my gun (I actually don't own guns) because a small group of parents weren't smart enough to keep an eye on their children? I shouldn't. That's ridiculous.

    I shouldn't be restricted from something because someone else isn't responsible enough to handle it. That's wrong.
     
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  20. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    Most of those deaths were because of criminals

    all of them were because of guns.
    what do you need a gun for?
    target shooting? use a .22 rifle or bb handgun.
    hunting you use a rifle, no-one hunts dear with a handgun
    so all the handguns in the usa can be removed without loss of your hobby
     
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