I am thinking less and less that PR is about backlinks. For example, a website I occasionally visit http://vsociety.net has only 30 backlinks, all of which are coming from shitty PR0 websites, and yet Vsociety has a PR of 5. I think this is because of a few reasons: a) Lot's of unique content. Nothing is copied, everything is original, and plenty of good articles. b) No violations of Google policy. No link exchanging or anything, just a good site. c) Website is at least 7 years old. Google likes older sites. Discuss!
Uhm, I go for c. although a & b are sure answers. I guess, IMO, that c proves your theory right. I got an old site that doesn't have high PR backlinks, but it gained me a PR of 3 (2 y.o. site, not that old, but year-aged still) But, I still consider having BLs from high PR sites matter. I tried having a new site and linked it to high PR sites. It gained me a PR of 4, more than my 2-year-old site.
http://www.vsociety.net has 30 backlinks. http://vsociety.net has 378 baclinks. At least one of them is PR6.
You are wrong. Not sure how you think the number of backlinks to the site you gave is so small. The site you gave actually has more than a 1000 backlinks on Google. You can see the real numbers on my tool here: http://www.sheerseo.com/seo/template.jsp?page=demo.jsp&demoUser=vsociety Look at the number of referrers page in the analysis.
and has 283 on Yahoo. If you go to the "main referrers" page in the link I gave you'll see he has at least one PR4 backlink.
I don`t agree, PR because of age. Why in the world would Google give you that ? There is no logical reason, age is not a guarantee that it is a good site.
Sure it is. If the site has been around long enough, its chances of being a randomly generated AdSense crap site are far less.
PR is ONLY about backlinks (unless we are looking at topic sensitive pagerank). PR is a mathematical value based system that votes and retains a value based on the value of the anchor page. Nothing else. not age, not anything else. TRUST is a different matter however the level of trust will increase ndpendently of links, but that is not PR.
hmm, not sure about the age thing. I am sure it's a factor - but you often see sites which have been parked for years, that have a PR0.
Backlinks are important, but of course they are not the only factor in PageRank. I think your idea that the domain is old is the best guess. There are probably other factors at play, though, of which we are not aware.
I've also noticed that PR can linger for a few months after a strong backlink has disappeared. I've only seen this personally once for a site with a paid PR7 link, which we couldn't renew. The link was up for 3 months, and the site in question went up to PR5. This held for a couple of PR updates before it went back to PR4. Timing is critical though and I know a one-off situation doesn't prove anything, but I was wondering if anyone else had seen similar? Cheers, Paz.
Based on my experience, I think age is also a factor. But, dont get me wrong there, if you have a 10 year-old site that doesnt have bls or have bls on bad neigborhoods or have been banned by google long before, then there would be no chances of getting a good PR. As told, my blog site has been there for so long. I wasn't doing SEO when I put that site. But, something befuddles me. And that is the quality of the backlinks I gained from that site. Usually, as observed (again, IMO), whenever a site is linked on an authority site, it actually gained PR less than 1 of that authority site. So much of theories, but I got another site that's PR4 (before, coz now it's down, and google refreshes PRs every 3-4months), which was linked to a PR 5 site (blog of a friend). That site doesn't use to have PR before. for my aged site, perhaps, someone with a PR of 4 and above may have linked me that's why I earned a 3. but this is more of my empirical speculation.
guys, you can speculate as much as you like, but you are wasting your time. page rank is a simple mathematical calculation with a few variables as to the AMOUNT of value that is passed. OK possibly lets say, as a site gets more trusted more PR is passed, but it is STILL all about backlinks. No linky linky, no linky mojo
Heh, this is fairly obvious, since Google states that themselves. Though, there might be an influence if the site's backlinks look suspicious. So I wouldn't be surprised if Google has a calculation like PR=<PR from formula calculation>*<creditability of backlinks> where <creditability of backlinks> ranges from 0 to 1.
Without doubt that exists, they even state that themselves when they say the more trusted a site is the more PR is transferred. so as I alluded, if age equates to trust then that can affect the AMOUNt of Pr, but is NOT directly related to GAINING pr You can only gain PR from a link. no links then it don't matter if your domain was the first ever domain, it will show PRzero in the silly green toolbar