IRAN : We will not stop , and we are ready for WAR

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  1. csite

    csite Well-Known Member

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    #41
    Iran contra scandal.

    Israel doesn't sell arms to iran any more, they did when it was to their benefit to weaken saddam and iran at the same time, shooting two birds with 1 stone!

    Israel since 1988 stopped supplying arms to iran of any form. Currently the spare parts are sent to iran illegally or locally made in iran. Most recently the pentagon had an arms sale where they were also selling spare parts for the F14 tomcat which is only used by iran and america. Ofcourse later when the dumbo in the pentagon realized it after senators raised the issue they stopped it. :p
     
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    #42
    Fine. As long as it doesn't disrupt or threaten OUR space activities, I'm good with it. I DON'T want them putting nukes on those rockets.

    They are the aggravate. Not the victim. But it is true they launch completely twisted propaganda campaigns; you are right.

    Israel is only a reactive country. They only act if first acted upon. In this case, if Iran launched a nuke at them or one of their (our) allies, then they'd probably fire one back if we gave them the ok. Nukes are a moral issue and that's not really the point of the debate right now, though.

    Iran has always been a violent and greedy/powerful/warmongering country. THAT'S why people pick on them. I'm sorry if you feel pity for the bullies. Remember the Persian Empire? It was best when they were quelled, and that stands today.

    And I'm SURE you know better than our military intelligence officials and strategists do :rolleyes: After all, you ARE so much smarter -_-
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #43
    Don't think we can blame Iran's actions on Israel this time. I can't imagine Israel giving support to a country whose leader has openly called for genocide of Israel.

    However, it is clear that Iran ordered sniper rifles that within 45 days of shipment, ended up being captured in the hands of terrorists in Iraq. That sure screams the "support" label being sought ;)
     
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  4. csite

    csite Well-Known Member

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    #44
    such rockets are not nuclear capable. Iran's shahab missile is.

    Totally untrue, israel defended against the arabs in 3 wars ok, but they also took their chance to attack egypt in the Suez war and also to invade lebanon claiming the plo was in lebanon ie a good reason to invade.

    Iran hasn't invaded another country for a long time, the usa tends to have wars and invade countries every decade or so. Iran isn't war mongering, and every country is greedy.

    Let me teach you some history of greed, the usa made a coup in iran in the 50's to overthrow a fully democratic secular iranian leader because he nationalized oil for iranian interests!

    The usa trained the iranian savak with help from israel who was the most brutal secret police at the time, killing many and abusing human rights.

    I won't get into all the cia coups and operations world wide ending in the death of hundreds of thousands of people world wide. Thats greed, lets not lose sight of the game here pointing at other countries as being evil.

    For someone who was in the iranian army, i'd say i know more than many of your commanders and analysts about the iranian capability.

    proof/source?

    Iran only arms the badr brigade. The badr brigade may well sell on the arms, but iran arms them in good faith incase of a civil war and also because the badr brigade are in the iraqi revolutionary council!

    The dragunov sniper rifle is usually used in iraq.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #46
    My money says if a war starts, it will actually be Iran that starts it...then we will see Israel attack in retaliation (because I think Iran would attack them first)...I predict that within the next 50 years another nuclear bomb will be used somewhere, and that it will somehow have to do with Iran. Maybe God will send another earthquake their way to wake them up...after all, God is the one that claimed Israel as the Chosen People.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #48
    Have to agree. Iran continually makes open threats in the world theater to commit and incite genocide of wiping out Jews. It's too bad ahmadeenspunk continues to think with his quran instead of what is the right thing to do.
     
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  9. csite

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    #49
    I actually question this report, there is no pics of the snipers being found or evidence pointing it to iran.

    It seems odd, iran orders 800 sniper rifles, the ships over 1/8th to iraq which is found in an arms hideout in mass...

    First of all, iran is smarter than to leave a trail if it was arming iraqis, second iran doesnt hide when it arms groups, iran openly says they arm and finance hezbollah and the badr brigade and finance hamas.


    My money is no war will break out with iran and israel, if there is a war it would be with iran and the usa which i strongly doubt.

    If iran attacks america, its because it was provoked todo so, the usa have violated iranian airspace many times and put sanctions on iran (an act of war!), warned iran many times, tries to stop other countries to trade with iran (which it always fails at!), tries to show force in the persian gulf and arrests iranian diplomats. Any attack would be totally legal on iran's part as self defence from the provocative american action.
     
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    I don't think he was trying to make a contradiction, he just answered csite's request for proof...again, your mouth is running but nothing understandable is coming out....:D
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #51
    The article supports what *I* said. Worst red herring I've seen in quite some time, gworld. Stop, think, come up with a better excuse and try again. Let me know when you are ready.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #52
    Do you even know any Jews? I know that republicans and neo-cons would sell USA down the river because they are too much in love with the money from pro-Israel lobby groups but what do you get? :rolleyes:

    I have many Jewish friends and even they don't suck up to state of Israel as you do. ;)
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I actually think that Iran wants them to be found, hoping the US will start another war....its the same tactic they are using on the UN....they know the UN will not do anything about the nuclear weapons issue, so they just press forward....however, they are trying to put the ball into everyone else's court, letting someone else make the first move.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #54
    I had no expectation that you wouldn't. You demanded proof, I provided it. I can appreciate denial when it's the only thing available ;)
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #55
    first of all, you have friends???

    second, why can't you stay on topic? If you don't have anything to say about Iran (which is obvious since you are an appeaser), then please don't say anything at all....

    btw, I fixed your sentence for you...
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #56
    Going to try the ferret strategy? Let me know how it works ;)

    Is that the best you can do to defend your buddy's calls for genocide? You're trying to think, but nothing happens.
     
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    #57
    I will be quite surprised if anything could possibly come out of your mouth since it seems to me it is permanently glued to Gtech' ass. :D
     
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    #58

    I rest my case....now, back on topic...Amadenjadiwearaturban is just wanting the USA to start another war, he sees that Iraq has not gone according to plan, and that if we jump in a war with them then they might have the chance of conquering Iraq...then they will have more oil and more resources, while the UN sits back and does nothing.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #59
    Are they aware of your utter contempt for them on this forum and how you honor terrorists who seek to kill Jews because of their *holy* scriptures?

    I suspect, if you really did have any friends, and they were to see the things you willingly offer to the world on an open forum here, they wouldn't be your friends very long.
     
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    #60
    The iranian government is more than ahmadinejad. Lol, ahmadinejad virtually has no power in iran, he may want a war with the usa (many iranian see him as a nutcase too!) but his powers are so limited, he controls the very basics of domestic policy only.

    The iranian supreme leader isn't a nutcase, he is a sensible man, so is the iranian reformist party and rafsanjani who also has a great deal of power in iran. If iran wanted to start a war they wouldn't be investing their money in many countries over the world like Indonesia and Venezuela etc. It makes no sense, if you want to start a war or expect one you save your money specially if the war is with the usa. Iran in the past few months invested over $20 billion in indonesia and Venezuela alone!

    Um, no, iranian/persians hate arabs, the last thing they want is to integrate with arabs. There is no benefit in invading iraq, all the problems of iraq which the US faces then would be in irans hands, Iran has plenty of untapped oil and gas reserves, they dont need iraqi ones.
     
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