I agree with you on this, many Europeans are in state of denial thinking that things will simply work out. It’s rather funny, this weekend I was watching a TV program about criminals in the UK and would you believe it that most where foreigners…. I’m not saying that all Brits are saints because they’re not, but facts are showing the reality of things.
So, you got certain people in mind when you paint that fake stereotype? No one likes anti-social behaviour, but just because you list some behaviour does not mean it has any bearing on reality. It is so easy to hate, isn't it? You do bring shame, but more than that, contempt. If that makes you a man, then so be it. Your beligerent stance is not admirable, only the childish defense of a weak ego.
Just out curosity to all the people scared to death of muslim boogyman Do even have muslims where you live? When was last time you spoke to a muslim in person?
No GTech you misunderstood. I think, that report is bullshit. I think it's not accurate. Of course I don't believe the Sharia law should be forced into schools you fool. You know I'm not one to take anything as it seems, and anyway, even if this report is totally factual, relieve us of those who believe it! Just don't let it taint your views of the rest people with similar faith, which it has already.
Ok I think this is leading down the wrong road. In my case I’m not talking about Muslims but rather about immigrants in general, I mentioned them because the thread is about Muslims. This has nothing to do with race. I am totally against European nations allowing non European citizens to settle in their countries because there is no need for this.
You're against non-europeans moving to European countries? Do you live in Europe? About my comment previously. I was wrong, everyone has their freedom of opinions, therefore Muslims who think UK should be under the Sharia law shouldn't be deported. That's not to say people wouldn't do things because of others' views though... Emperor, funny how most prisoners in the US are black eh? That surely must mean something right? According to your logic? And MikMik, well said my friend
Yes I do live in Europe and like I stated a few posts back I've also lived in England for a few months. Yes in my way of thinking it does say a lot. There are more black criminals than white, simple as that. I didn’t make it that way, it’s just the way things are.
Funny how predjudice works its magic, eh? I wonder how prison sentences compare between blacks, hispanics, and whites - for the same offence? We are all just people, okay?
I really wouldn’t know, I don’t live in the USA. I think that all this blacks get treated worse than whites thing is over exaggerated but who am I to say. [/quote]We are all just people, okay?[/QUOTE] Sorry I don’t know what you’re trying to say??? I never said otherwise.
And MikMik, well said my friend I am a Leeds fan. Since the late sixties. I live in Edmonton, Canada, but I had a great soccer coach, a Magpie fan. My roots are Scottish, sorry about that. There are only two types of people: those who are Scottish, and those who wish they were Scottish. I am the latter, luckily
I think that there are actually way more white people arrested every year in the US. Black people just convicted and get jail time more then white people at least that is what the FBI says about 2004 http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/persons_arrested/index.html
Like I said I really wouldn’t know anything about that. Personally I think it’s a bit over exaggerated but that’s just me.
I really wouldn’t know, I don’t live in the USA. I think that all this blacks get treated worse than whites thing is over exaggerated but who am I to say It is surreptitious at best, blatant at worst. I live in Canada and am lucky to be very accepting of others, yet there are many who are predjudiced here. One of the stigmas is that minorities are more prone to crimes, and alcoholism, especially aboriginals. There are far more natives in jail here than representative of population. There is also a lot of hate towards east Indians. It is also mostly 'undercurrent', like comments about "that Paki". When there is an attitude of intollerance, or more importantly, misunderstanding, about anyone that is different, it pervades a society even if only a few are deeply hatefull. There are stereotypes in the media, our entertainment, but mostly, self fulfilling behaviors. Why? Because they are not equal. It is an underlying attitude, and that attitude is self propagating, throughout our social and informal interactions. When your race, or culture, is demeaned, because you are different, there are so many subtle ways that opportunity is denied you, sometimes uncounciously, sometimes intentionally. One in six Canadians are admittedly racist. I think one in two make racist based jokes and/or offhand comments during simple social interactions. Then, there is the US. Poverty breeds poverty, sickness, and crime. If you have no hope, then you take what you want. That is crime. Ghettos are filled with hopeless people, and there are very fucking few examples of people that make it. When people are all treated as valuable, then they will all feel valuable. Hey? Then how will they act? Like everyone else, they will live as equals. They will just be 'one of us'.
Here's some more denial for Brum and another opportunity for ferret to squeeze in the "all" card or "must have met them in person to be true" card: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/25/nterr25.xml Nothing to see here folks, let's all move along
Is that really the best defense you have? Couldn't you post the usual "God hates fags" and hitler photo to try to change the topic? You are so predictable, ferret
its just curosity, if you take it as a defense thats on you so when was last time you talked to muslim in real life? Do they have muslims where you live?
I don’t see where you want to get with this question??? I have Muslims here where I live and no I don’t talk to them, so what!!! Anyway I don’t think they want to talk to me either….
Heh, what ever guys. Everyone is free to have their own opinion, I dont see why I should have to defend mine more. As I said I dont mind anyone coming, as long as they follow the laws and work legaly. Also yes I come from England (Leeds, Yorkshire)
GTech, I'm aware there are terrorists planning certain things. What's your point? I'm not denying there are terrorists with a distorted view of Islam.