no estate tax!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by adrian88, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. #1
    no estate tax!

    its stupid...
    its unconstitutional...

    double taxation

    even more harsh than those funeral salespeople who try to rip you off once a loved one dies

    i do believe in hereditary privileges

    what do you guys think?
     
    adrian88, Feb 21, 2007 IP
  2. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #2
    Not all countries have estate tax. Some governments keep the mechanism in place but have it set to 0%, others abolish it completely.

    Could it be that you are living in the wrong country for your idealogical beliefs?
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    We have it in the UK - it's called inheritance tax. It is currently 40% of the individual's estate over £285,000 ($560,000). It's a very, very unjust tax - the deceased has probably worked hard, earned a lot and paid a lot of taxes during their life, which is stolen from their family in their death. A bad tax indeed.
     
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  4. adrian88

    adrian88 Peon

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    #4
    "It is currently 40% of the individual's estate over £285,000 ($560,000"

    that is crazy!!!
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    Maybe it sounds worse than I meant it to! What I mean is if someone left an estate valued at £385,000 then the rate of inheritance tax would be 40% of the £100,000 of value that is over the threshold (so £40,000 in this example). Still quite staggering! And the government call themselves socialists. Pah.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #6
    Most also allow you to gift a certain amount to a trust fund too.

    So we have our home and businesses in a trust. It belongs to our children but we get the benefit while we are alive. Any other funds can be "gifted" to the trust at a limited $$$ per year.

    That way if a government down the line chooses to increase the duty from 0% our assets are protected.

    If you are savvy enough to accumulate £385,000 then you should have a decent lawyer and accountant who can explain similar mechanisms available locally.
     
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    It think it's political unfeasible in America to be completely void of it...at the moment.

    What they should do (to please the progressive-minded), but remain economically pratical is: Raise the amount up to a number which will not effect any small business owner...which shouldn't be too significant.

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    So when they die, it's possible to continue on with the business. A thriving economy should not have to compensate with private loans for public taxes (which is essentially the problem of it). Idealistically the tax wouldn't exist at all, but I tend to understand the idea of not allowing a dynasty of super rich people.
     
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    Nonono. That -is- socialism. Socialism is taking away money from some people and giving it to others with the justification that everyone has a right to at least some of everyone else's money and/or property.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #9
    doesn the estate tax only effect people inheriting more then a million dollars?

    at least in the US
     
    ferret77, Feb 22, 2007 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    I think it's 2 or 3 million, actually. It's pretty high. But the people who get hit with the most (on a noticeable level) are the farmers whose land values rise all the time.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    oh come on, the farmers, thats just a talking point

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/23/AR2005072300741.html

    http://www.factcheck.org/article328.html

     
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    We're essentially just subsidizing banks, and funding big government. Two things that seem rather unappealing to me.
     
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    #13
    Everything this a talking point, Ferret. It's hard to believe that you read those and think that its a good thing. Mighty kind of the government to extend the rape period over 14 years.

    The estate tax is probably the most evil tax out there. It taxes that which has already been taxed before - usually on several different levels. Earlpearl and I had a long discussion about it a few months back - he supported it mainly on the Paris Hilton level. I'm not going to rehash it all again, but feel free to find the thread.
     
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    yeah for the paris hilton level
    she just spends it all so its all fine
     
    adrian88, Feb 22, 2007 IP